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Fuck me that price… I know it’s a great company, but the framework-premium is like $1000-1500 on that hardware

AMD 370 w/ the 5070, 2TB drive and 64GB of ram is like $5000 CDN

You can get a similar specs from Lenovo or Asus for under $3500

I’d still like to get one, but… I can’t justify that. It’s literally $1000 for just the Nvidia 5070 graphics module, and it’s still only 8gb of VRAM. That’s more expensive than a desktop 5070($800ish) with 12GB of VRAM and you can get a desktop 5070ti for only $1100 which has 16gb of VRAM.

I really like framework, but I can’t put that much money extra towards one or it’s literally going to be coming out of my food budget.

I’m due for an upgrade to my 3060 laptop, but… I just can’t do it.

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NGram@piefed.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
It's never really been about upfront price so much as longevity. If you can avoid a laptop upgrade e.g. every 5 years by upgrading just a few components instead, it'll last you longer and cost you less longterm.

Fundamentally, the cheapest way to build electronics is with very little modularity. Making parts swappable is more complicated to design and needs more components to be included. Both drive up the cost of the product.

No sweat if it's too expensive or that's not what you care about (ok, though you should sweat not caring about longevity), but making it all about the price is sort of missing the point. Capitalism is a tool for improving our lives but is not the only tool for that.

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- BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Longevity has been a bit of a strange argument to me, I already re-use my old laptops. My two previous devices are in active use by my kids. My devices usually get 10+ total years each.
  
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  - noodles@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    That’s amazing but I think you’re in the minority
    
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ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
You can save a bit by buying the RAM and SSD elsewhere (and not needing the expanded graphics helps lmao).

But yeah they’re still a bit much, however I appreciate the reparability, and now think every manufacturer should adopt the ports so I can goddamn choose to have my 3.5mm back when I need but swap it to an extra USB-C (or A, MicrosSD, SD, Display, eth, etc) when I don’t.

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