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wampus@lemmy.ca 10 hours agoMe personally? I wouldn’t care either way. I’ve seen a woman on the street fingering the ass of a muslim dude before, and just sorta walked by. But I don’t have kids. I imagine if I had kids, I’d be opposed to public ass-blasting.
A parent that I work with has had awkward conversations with his kids, after they came to Canada and saw guys kissing / making out in public. I can appreciate that such PDAs can prompt similar ‘awkward’ conversations, but also that they’re much less ‘common’ than encountering them as part of a big budget movie – and encountering them in public is often an easier way for parents to broach the subject. Kids noticing that stuff is unavoidable as they mature, but having it forced to the front by media / schools is questionable, and I can appreciate the parents’ concerns on that front.
Cataphract@lemmy.ml 5 hours ago
I don’t think replying to you is helpful but I stuck my foot in this so I might as well try.
If you were actually being fair and equal to everyone then your stance would be, “NO child should be exposed to ANY type of relationship dynamic”. Or only those that you feel are “positive” examples (highlighting your stance that any lgbtq+ partnership is inherently negative and damaging to a child’s development).
I think the problem of how you perceive people responding to you is the misclassification or simple lack of knowledge in history of what you call “non-standard partners”. Nature is not familiar with “standard partners”, Sappho is an interesting read from 600 BC (and a great meme community), Ancient Greece felt differently than you do today about “traditional relationships”,
Ancient Greece excerpt
> In the cultures of the ancient world, there was no need for designations such as LGBTQ+ because there was no difference noted between what is now defined as “homosexual” and “heterosexual” relationships. There was no “us” and “them” dichotomy to encourage such labels; there was only “us” and whoever one chose to love was one’s own business. (link)
For a more modern take, Karl Heinrich Ulrichs from 1860’s which they consider the first modern gay right’s movement advocate. Astonishingly about the same time the US abolished slavery.
Currently the population consists of about 23% of newer generations proudly stating they are lgbtq+, I suspect largely in part because of the de-stigmatizing of such relationships that religious fervor and right-wing ideology demonized because of the “traditional values” (which is horse shit because traditional is subjective).
tl;dr: Kids are curious and actually have feelings they are developing, some of which is attraction to a class-mate in elementary school (wtf is valentines day then?). If they don’t see any representation and people respond like you do to “non-standard” relationships, they develop the same core concepts as you’ve come to embolden making them feel ashamed and causing more confusion then just a simple conversation they should have with an adult.
The fact that they can be exposed in public but should not be in media is just a weird stance to take (especially when parents can dictate what a child consumes or at least should be proactive in that space). We’re also completely negating the fact that less people are exposed to the overall public and moreso only interact in small circles online especially with adolescents.