Comment on A real question about trans athletes and records
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 day ago
The best examples you will ever see of why people should only compete in sports against people of their sex are when there have been mixed competitions. Lets take the recent olympics for example.
In the swimming they had a mixed medley relay event. 2 males, 2 females on each team. In the first leg of the final, backstroke, 4 teams chose a male to swim and 4 chose a female. Can you guess which 4 are the females?
Walk_blesseD@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
Oi mate, you might wanna read the post again. You do understand that it's about trans women competing in women's sports, not about cis men competing in women's sports, right…? Because those aren't the same.
There's far more overlap between the physiolgical characteristics of transsexual females and cissexual females than there is between transsexual females and cissexual males, so by categorically conflating trans females with males you're really just showing off that you know sweet fuck all about this issue.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 day ago
I’m sorry but they are the same thing. Trans women are biologically male, and being biologically male means that they have physical attributes that give them advantages over women - everything from height to wingspan to lung capacity to the shape of their hips gives them an advantage that no amount of testosterone blockers or oestrogen shots can take away.
This is just flat out unquestionably incorrect.
Trans women are males - that’s where the TRANS part of “trans women” comes from. You’re getting your terminology mixed up by the way - Female and Male are the sexes, not genders. You can’t change sex - it is physically and biologically impossible in the human race. There are no “trans females” or “trans males”, only trans women and trans men.
Walk_blesseD@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
Yeah righto, you haven't got a clue what you're on about but because you're an entitled fuck with an opinion, you're just putting it out there as confidently as you can because you're hoping people will uncritically agree with it since it reaffirms their priors.
But you're wrong. Biological sex is malleable. The whole fucking point of sex hormones is to guide the development of sex characteristics. It's kinda in the name. Or did you think people's bodies somehow magically just do that by themselves during puberty and that sex hormones have nothing to do with it??? Are you stupid????
If what you're saying were true and trans women were, as you say, "biOlogiKalLy maLe," and had all the many advantages over cis women in sports that come with that, surely you'd feel confident in providing research that supports your conclusion specifically as regarding trans women instead of having to equivocate them with a completely different demographic—because tbh doing the latter and calling it a day just screams of intellectual cowardice.
And no, I'm not getting anything mixed up, you smug arsehole. Trans people do (broadly speaking—some don't but those aren't relevant to this discussion) change sex by undergoing various processes that alter their bodies' sex characteristics on a biological level, and you living in denial isn't gonna change that. I'm really curious as to what, specifically, you think determines sex.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 day ago
I absolutely know what I’m talking about, because it’s basic human biology and physiology.
100% incorrect. No amount of hormones can ever change your sex. You’re equating having boobs to being female, or getting a deep voice to being male, which is just absurd. Your sex is written in every single cell of your body, and it can never change. If you honestly believe what you just wrote, you really should go and get some help.
Secondary sex characteristics != sex. No one in the history of the world has ever changed sex. Never. Not a single person. It is biologically impossible in the human race.
Your chromosomes. Got a Y? You’re a male. Just X’s? Female. What do you think determines sex?