Have used it actually, but it’s not as good. Also we know some dairy farming families and they aren’t torturing their herd. Though you are right, I don’t really care about the fate of them. As long as their isn’t real sadistic cruelty. In that instance, I worry more about what it says about the people.

I’m far more interested in the environmental impact. I can’t seam to digest meat substitutes (even when they are meant to be coeliac safe). We make a point of restraining our beef consumption due to the environmental impact, as it’s the worse meat impact wise. I’d jump on lab meat and milk.