Comment on Dairy farmers say worker shortage is threatening UK food security

jerkface@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• jabjoe@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Agreed, but the problem is butter is really nice. We something as good, or better, that doesn’t use so much land and water create so much CO2 (well CO2e).

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  • jerkface@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    We already have butter free of cruelty and violence that tastes and functions just the same. You don’t use it because you don’t give a fuck about cruelty and violence to vulnerable individuals living in atrocity. I don’t use it because it’s still not good for you.

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    • jabjoe@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Have used it actually, but it’s not as good. Also we know some dairy farming families and they aren’t torturing their herd. Though you are right, I don’t really care about the fate of them. As long as their isn’t real sadistic cruelty. In that instance, I worry more about what it says about the people.

      I’m far more interested in the environmental impact. I can’t seam to digest meat substitutes (even when they are meant to be coeliac safe). We make a point of restraining our beef consumption due to the environmental impact, as it’s the worse meat impact wise. I’d jump on lab meat and milk.

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    • MouldyCat@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      This really depends on where you live. I didn’t realise how spoilt I was living in Berlin until I moved away. Vegan butter that is as good as actual butter is widely available there, at about the same price - albeit unsalted.

      I’m now in France, where big supermarkets often have a whole row of fridges dedicated to butter, and I’ve not as yet even seen one place selling any kind of modern vegan butter. I think it was the same story in Spain too, although I wasn’t staying in large cities there.

      I’ve tried a range of different vegan butters while I’ve been at home in the UK and they all just taste like margarine. France I can understand, as they have a big dairy culture (no pun intended - that would be cheese), but I’m at a loss to explain why the good stuff isn’t widely available in the UK as the demand is there.

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