Comment on Young men are struggling in a slowing job market, even if they have college degrees

• partial_accumen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  If you’re interested/comfortable in sharing some specifics I’m interested in hearing more about his real world experience:

  The hiring signs for don’t necessarily mean much. I have a friend looking for such “basic” sort of a job, or anything really, that I’ve been trying to help out. Two years later and we’re both still trying to find more places around for him to apply to. I know the guy well enough to know that he’s not like being a jerk to the occasional interviewer he gets or anything like that, and while he doesn’t have much he doesn’t have zero work history either.

  It sounds from your explanation that he is actually getting interviews, but hes getting ghosted afterward. Has he talked about what how the interviews go? Does your friend feel good about how they went or was he getting questions he didn’t like or had trouble providing an answer to? Have you done a “mock interview” with him to see how he presents to see if there are things he could use help on there too? Are you in an area that has seasonal work (such as tourism support) and has he gone for any of that? Those kind of workforces tend to be more permissive with their hires.

  you’d think statistically at least one of them would have worked out by now, but most won’t even give the courtesy of a “no”

  Sadly, I know this is VERY common for employers to simply ghost applicants even after interviews. Its a practice I don’t like either.

  I suspect those signs are more there to have a constant pool of applicants in case they should need to quickly replace an existing employee (or reassure overworked ones that they’re “looking” for someone) than any actual intent to hire more staff.

  I’ve personally talked to a few of the managers/owners of the places I frequent, and nearly all the ones I’ve talked to are actually actively interviewing to hire, not just build a pool. Even the one that I talked to that IS building a pool communicated he has a high turnover workforce (usually working students whose school schedules frequently change and they have to quit). Again, all of my second hand experience is within 15 miles of where I live and I absolutely understand conditions could be different literally everywhere else in the USA.

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  • CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    He’s gotten a handful of interviews (maybe a dozen, which over that time period doesn’t seem like very many to me but I don’t have enough job hunting experience to say). Ive generally asked him about them the day of, he’s usually thought they’ve gone well (the places that have actually interviewed him have usually been fast food type places, and have usually asked him more about availability than much else from what he’s told me), and often they’ve told him some variation of “we should give you a call with our decision within a week”, after which all but one has never actually done so. I’ve not tried giving him a mock interview (I’ve been lucky enough to get hired by the first place to interview me both times I’ve been job hunting myself, so I have very little notion of what exactly to ask to simulate such a thing), most of my assistance to him has either been trying to find places he hasn’t applied yet, helping him make his resume, and relaying advice from an aunt of mine with a lot more general life experience. I’ve also tried recommending him to my workplace’s HR a couple times when they’ve had entry level positions open but he’s never heard anything from applications there either. As far as seasonal work goes, I don’t know if he’s applied to any tourist stuff or not, I’ve not seen very many such jobs listed when I’ve looked around job postings but I might not be looking in the right place. He has tried applying for temporary landscaping positions a few times without any luck though.

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    • partial_accumen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      As far as seasonal work goes, I don’t know if he’s applied to any tourist stuff or not

      These are certainly location dependent. Regional theme parks (Six Flags, Cedar Point, etc) are always big for hiring for the summer usually 5,000 to 9,000 workers each summer so there’s lots of positions and the job lasts for the summer months. In touristy places theres also lots of jobs at much smaller employers. However, don’t over look small fairs or community events. County fairs will hire general labor to do non-skilled tasks. These will last slightly longer than the length of the even (setup, event, teardown), so perhaps a few weeks or a couple of months. Some like Cedar Point actually have worker housing so even if you don’t live close you can go live in the company dorms for the summer (very cheaply) and earn doing the work.

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