apple fanbois are quite something
Comment on Apple’s lock on iPhone browser engines gets a December deadline
mbirth@lemmy.ml 2 days ago
Great, let lazy developers ship lots of React/Electron/whatever apps each coming with their own Chrome engines and each being 100MB+ in size. Websites won’t be tested properly on Safari anymore because “please install Chrome from the App Store for maximum compatibility”. And Google’s domination of the browser market will be completely unstoppable.
umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 days ago
SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 1 day ago
Hopefully you are incorrect. Buttt I wouldn’t be surprised if you were correct.
somerandomperson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
More competition is always better.
mbirth@lemmy.ml 2 days ago
We all thought that when Google came along, too.
princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
…what?
mbirth@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Did you not notice that almost every browser from recent years is based on Chromium?
Did you not notice how Google Search basically eradicated almost every alternative there was (RIP AltaVista…) over the years?
Did you not notice how Android dominates the mobile OS market in most countries?
dan@upvote.au 2 days ago
A lot iPhone apps already use React. There’s a sample of a few on the React Native site: reactnative.dev/showcase. It’s almost certain that you have at least one React Native app installed on your phone :)
I’m not sure what being able to run different browsers has to do with Electron, as Electron doesn’t run on mobile at all.
Sites already misbehave in Safari because there’s so many Safari-specific bugs. It’s similar to IE6 in that sites often need Safari-specific hacks to make them work properly.
mbirth@lemmy.ml 2 days ago
It’s only React now. But misguided developers WILL also package Chrome if given the chance.
And maybe it’s not Safari making the sites misbehave, maybe it’s Google pushing arbitrary features via their Chromium/Chrome ownership and developers optimising for them instead of adhering to actual standards?
MagicShel@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
I agree with your reasoning. I refuse to use chrome. Even at work I use it only for the sites that are non functional.
I still think this is a good thing and hope they do keyboards next because fuck do I hate swipe typing on iPhone.
mbirth@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
fuck do I hate swipe typing on iPhone
If you can get used to the idea of carrying a brick, maybe have a look at Clicks Keyboard.
dan@upvote.au 1 day ago
And maybe it’s not Safari making the sites misbehave,
It is, though. You can build a modern site and it’ll work fine in Chrome, work fine in Firefox, but have weird issues in Safari.
i_am_not_a_robot@discuss.tchncs.de 2 days ago
Will they? It’s possible to do on Android but I’ve never heard of anyone doing it. Cordova on Android uses the Android web view component rather than ship its own copy of Chromium. Of course Android web view is now Chrome so it’s less likely that you would have difficult compatibility problems that would make you want to ship your own browser engine.
i_am_not_a_robot@discuss.tchncs.de 2 days ago
React Native and React are different. React Native does not use a web browser.
dan@upvote.au 1 day ago
Why would someone use React DOM on iOS when React Native exists, though? The core concepts are the same between the two, and you can share a large amount of code between a React web app and a React Native mobile app (even moreso if you use react-native-web for the web app).
lichtmetzger@discuss.tchncs.de 1 day ago
Websites won’t be tested properly on Safari anymore
They only have to be test on Safari specifically, because it’s doing some things differently from Mozilla and Chrome. Guess Apple will finally have to use their money to actually fix those issues.
TehPers@beehaw.org 1 day ago
Not only is Safari miserable to test on without a Mac, whenever I see an exception to something in caniuse, it’s almost always Safari.
lichtmetzger@discuss.tchncs.de 1 day ago
Yep, apart from the bugs that really annoys me, too. To effectively debugg an issue on iOS, you need an iPhone and connect it to a Mac (or iPad) to use the debug tools.
Every other browser can be run on a typical PC. You can emulate Android, run Firefox and Chrome and just get cracking. I’m not getting paid to buy an expensive device to do my work, lol.
protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 days ago
this is the biggest fucking cope I ahve seen
vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 1 day ago
you know you’re the one choosing to run those apps, right?
TehPers@beehaw.org 2 days ago
Well the alternative is what we have now: everyone is forced to use Safari.
Imagine being upset that people have a choice now.
Mobile apps are all already written without a care in the world about the user. I doubt Jimmy, who uses exclusively TikTok, Instagram, and Facebook and maybe plays a few ad-infested mobile games, is going to notice a difference, but now people can use Firefox and Chrome if they want instead of being locked to Safari in all its “glory”.