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ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

Pssst, the “bullet” is called a “nail” in a “nail gun.”

37mms and 40mms also use a .38 blank (or a shotgun primer, depending) to launch, that not “gun” enough for you either just because the propellant and projectile are independent? What about flintlock?

And who says “gun” needs sub-MOA accuracy to be “gun?” The Liberator (both the George Hyde FP-45 produced by the OSS and the Cody Wilson 3d printed one) is notoriously inaccurate, meant to be basically pressed into a nazi back and fired to steal their firearm (or to simply exist as a working proof of concept for Cody’s, really). Both still very “gun.”

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JustinTheGM@ttrpg.network ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
I took the time to watch some videos of people testing this.

A pneumatic roofing nailer couldn’t stick a nail into the board from even 2-3cm away.

A pneumatic framing nailer couldn’t stick a nail into a pine board from 5m; the nails all tumbled badly past about 15cm.

This guy then proceeded to weld a freakin’ barrel, almost a meter long, onto his framing nailer in hopes of improving accuracy. While it did achieve that goal, he only got about 1cm of penetration from ~3m.

A PA nailer with green blanks stuck a 1.5" nail into a railroad tie about an inch deep from 2m, and a 2.5" nail about 1cm deep from 3m.

More interestingly, the above nailer only got about 5cm of penetration in a ballistic gel block with a 1.5" nail and a green blank from 15cm away. A yellow blank from the same distance got about 12cm of penetration.

Aside from all that, we’re talking about a tool designed to push a fastener into material while in contact with said material. A gun is a tool designed to push a bullet into a target at a distance with some level of designed-in accuracy. These are not the same thing. A power nailer can certainly be used as a gun, but it can also be used as a step stool, a ruler, or a door stop. Usage outside intended purpose doesn’t change the nature of an object.

Hey, if you want to call your PA nailer a nail gun, that’s fine. There’s no law requiring accuracy in speech, and of the entire power hammer category a PA nailer is probably closest.
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- ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Pneumatic != Powder Actuated. The former is propelled by air, the latter by smokeless gunpowder.
  
  Besides, your video guy just had skill issues. These guys did fine with just a pneumatic, was your guy using a Ryobi or something lol? While that might not be as bad as a real bullet it doesn’t look like the clay pigeon 25yd away had fun.
  
  If you want more penetration, increase the powder load from 2-3ish grains to something appropriate for your “bullet” weight (mind weighing some of those nails in grains for me?) Green and yellow aren’t even the strongest, let’s see what a purple can do (and also can someone weigh those powder charges for me in grains too?) Hell, let’s see what a 5.56 blank can do.
  
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