i fucking hate the “that’s how it is, go do smth else if you don’t like it” attitude. can we please acknowledge that online gaming would be overall more fun for everyone if people stopped being toxic towards each other?
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FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Honestly, I’m not a fan of that sort of censorship.
I grew up in the Time Before Internet, and played all of the earliest online games. Trash talk is simply part of the experience as far as I’m concerned. On Team Fortress Classic, you had to abuse a motherfucker through text chat. And we loved it: everyone was enjoying that novel experience.
Back in the day of early COD on Xbox Live, lobbies were wild. Heck, even Uno subjected you to everything from ‘teach me slurs in your language’ to ‘random dude masturbating on camera while smoking a joint’.
I still play the occasional online game, but they’re boring and soulless. Very few people are on comms, as most seem afraid to actually talk. And with good reason; any sort of mildly spicy talk would get you banned on games. So instead of fostering a friendly atmosphere, from my perspective it ended up killing the entire vibe.
Let folks talk trash. Give as good as you get. And if that’s not for you? There’s other games to play.
octoham@lemmy.world 4 days ago
seralth@lemmy.world 4 days ago
As long as we can also agree that over bearing forced positivity due to fear of triggering a black box automated ban system is also total ass and fucking ruins games.
I don’t want to see racism and sexism every single match, but I also don’t want the game to censor every single possible thing to the point the community basically becomes lobotomized and unhuman out of God damn fear.
League is a great example. It was a toxic cess pit of unholy levels. Now everyone is so fucking fake and scared to anger the AI black box over lord that no one acts like a normal person.
Or you end up with half your team muted cause of bullshit fake reasons the AI thinks could offend a made up Karen on a power trip so you can’t communicate at all.
It’s not fun on either extremes.
octoham@lemmy.world 3 days ago
that league example is the exception and not the rule. most games have horrible measures against sexism and racism and whatnot. the issue with league’s system is that it’s ai-based and ai makes mistakes all the time
LwL@lemmy.world 3 days ago
It’s not trash talk at all though. And even ignoring the language itself, trash talk is towards your opponents (where still most people don’t get how to do it in a non-obnoxious way, i.e. someone spamming ez after they win a game isn’t trash talk it’s being annoying). Most of the really bad flame happens towards teammates because everyone needs to blame someone else.
Irl sports get by just fine without people constantly being pieces of shit, I dunno why it’s so hard to apply that to online games.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 4 days ago
Trash talk is still acceptable.
Telling someone to kill themselves isn’t trash talk. Nor is using racial slurs, misogynistic, misandristic, homophobic or transphobic language.