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• sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I am being somewhat loose with terms because I am talking about a whole bunch of statistical data btoadly, more specifically, the GSS survey data from the comment I am replying to, and also the other 3 studies that can be found either at or by following through the other links I’ve provided.

  But uh sure, in terms of the GSS study, what is being looked at is more precisely ‘female sex partners,’ more specifically, since you’ve become 18 yo.

  gssdataexplorer.norc.org/variables/5060/vshow

  So uh anyway, I thought that was fairly clearly obvious if you’d actually read even the first few paragraphs of the link in the comment I am replying to, that explains the methodology used to generate that graph.

  I was trying to just summarize it for those less well versed in statistics.

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  Either way, my main critique is still valid.

  The comment I am replying to seems to imply that because of the error bars on this particular way of presenting GSS data, that the whole idea of more and more males having less and less sex is somehow not credible…

  … and this is not the case, there are many, many other studies, far more than just the 3 I’ve linked, that show that just broadly, young people are having less and less sex.

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  If you can actually find the actual, precise phrasing of what the GSS survey asked in 2018, heck I’d appreciate it, but uh yeah, it does seem to be the case that the GSS survey does not expliclity and directly ask whether or not a respondent has had sex with how many people in the last whatever time period…

  That this is indeed basically a ‘virginity’ or ‘no recent sex partners’ stat trying to be teased out of a data set that isn’t geared toward that, and that there are indeed other, more conclusive studies with lower error margins that do a better job of showing this metric.

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  …substack.com/…/2024-update-to-the-gss-sexlessnes…

  This is the same dataset, the GSS, being again teased in similar ways, with 2024 data.

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  Apparently we are now up to roughly 27% of 18-29 yo men and 20% of 18-29 yo women having had no sex in the past year, and apparently, the actual wording of the question in the 2024 survey was:

  'About how often did you have sex during the last 12 months?’.

  So that would be all inclusive, but also:

  In 2012, PARTNERS was used (a variable excluded from the most recent survey), as SEXFREQ was only asked to people who had had one or more sexual partners on this year.

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  This is the kind of shit that makes using this GSS survey to look at this issue less statistically valid… your not actually looking at the same answer to the same question over the whole time period that is displayed in these meme graphs.

  This is what is meant by “lies, damned lies, and statistics.”

  Again, the whole point of my comment is that yes, the original graph here is a dumb graph because of how it in particular is constructed, but that it is also dumb to then conclude that other, better studies, graphs and datasets exist that do a better job of showing the trend/issue people are talking about.

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