Comment on How come nobody does anything about North Korea?
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 day agoThe right to self-determination I suppose didn’t include South Korean who North Korea attacked?
Comment on How come nobody does anything about North Korea?
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 day agoThe right to self-determination I suppose didn’t include South Korean who North Korea attacked?
Objection@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
If Koreans wanted the South Korean government, they could’ve fought for it. On their own. Without Americans coming in and dropping bombs and chemicals and slaughtering civilians in pursuit of their own interests, in defense of their propped up comprador regime.
Again, it was an internal matter for Koreans to settle among themselves. I have yet to see you provide any reason for the US to get involved. And even if they did have a valid reason, it certainly doesn’t justify the way they conducted the war.
The only thing close to resembling a justification that you’ve said is “the North attacked first.” But that doesn’t really matter to me. Revolution is inherently aggressive and revolution is not always bad, therefore, being the aggressor doesn’t always make a side bad. But even if I did consider the North to be in the wrong, we’re not the fucking world police. We had no business getting involved there. Why on earth should we send soldiers, ordinary people, to go off and fight and die on a completely different continent just to further the geopolitical influence of the US government, and the billionaires that control it?
Tell me, who were the beneficiaries of our intervention in Korea? Ordinary Koreans? The ones we dropped chemical weapons on even if they weren’t involved in the war? Ordinary Americans? What the hell did we get out of? No, the beneficiaries were the South Korean bourgeoisie and fascist collaborators and the American bourgeoisie, and no one else.
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
They did fight for it. North Korea was just much better armed and stronger thanks in large part to USSR’s help. South asked for UN help and got it, much of it provided by the US. And later on China got directly involved.
It doesn’t feel like you’re against getting involved in this type of stuff but specifically angry at the US
Objection@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
The UN at that time was a fairly new institution, and China’s seat was denied to it and given to Taiwan, leading to the USSR to boycott it. The UN that invaded Korea was mostly just the US and Western Europe, it doesn’t provide the moral cover you want it too.
Ideally, neither the US nor the USSR and China would have been involved. But if you’re justifying US imperialism by arguing that the USSR and China were being imperialistic, then I see no reason why their positions wouldn’t be justified on the same basis. It’s nonsense. Two wrongs don’t make a right.
Again, it’s a simple question, so go ahead and answer it. Who actually benefitted from the US bombing the hell out of Korea and deploying chemical and biological weapons on its people? And if no one benefitted, then why the hell do you support it?
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
South Korea benefited from UN (and I’m using that since it was UN who was the participant, not for “moral cover”) driving North Korea back after they had invaded.
All of the casualties could’ve been avoided had both governments stayed behind their respective borders. Like how happened in Germany.