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He did go down that path but he wasn’t fully out of depression by then, as part of it he needed to make some monthly payments to the lawyer as I recall, and because he was still on the fence of offing himself he didn’t keep up with it, and once it’s filed and not followed up with, it’s harder for it to get approved in the future, so he kind of fucked himself.

Also half of the loans were government Covid aid that he applied for even though he wasn’t eligible, he applied to everything and they sent him a lot of money because at that point in the pandemic the government was writing blank cheques that they would just follow up with and scrutinize later.

All of that government money is not eligible to be taken care of through bankruptcy, so he would still owe half of the debt regardless.

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voracitude@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

Also half of the loans were government Covid aid that he applied for even though he wasn’t eligible

Ahh, so he did a bunch of fraud. The reason the government was writing blank cheques was because people were dying in the millions and businesses were failing left and right. He’s lucky he’s not in prison.

I’m glad he’s doing better now, but I can’t help but think of the people who needed that money and might not have gotten it in time (or maybe at all) because of what he did. Does he ever think about that, do you know?

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- WhyIAughta@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Yes he is aware of the moral implications, clearly the government wasn’t holding back assistance to anyone at the time. Let me just show him your unconstructive comment real quick so he can get down on himself.
  
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  - voracitude@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    I’m really glad that he’s aware of the moral implications of what he did.
    
    Doesn’t sound like you are though. I mean, you just admitted he committed fraud in order to appropriate money meant for people who actually needed it, and now:
    
    you want to justify it by saying “clearly the government wasn’t holding back assistance to anyone at the time” as though it being an honour system at the time made what he did okay;
    
    you’re pulling that after you first tried to paper over that they weren’t just any old loans he took out; in addition to which
    
    you want to try and paint me as the bad guy.
    
    You serious, dude? You’re aware that I didn’t commit fraud during the pandemic, right? And it wasn’t hard either, I just didn’t apply for relief I wasn’t eligible for. You’re aware he wasn’t scamming a bank, he was scamming people in need?
    
    It’s okay to make mistakes, but he is lucky he’s not in prison, and if he can own what he did like an adult then so can you.
    
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    WhyIAughta@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Shut up with your holier then thou attitude, he made mistakes and he is paying the money back. You can fuck right off.
    
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