Comment on Does people doing things that upset others also upset you?
gon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks agoYeah, that makes total sense.
but don’t want it to be required.
That was a key point of my question - that you agree that it should be required - but maybe it shouldn’t have been… Could you elaborate on this?
What would be something that upsets others, but you think shouldn’t be banned/required, you still think people should act in a certain way, but it doesn’t upset you when they don’t?
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
People should queue up when there are more people than things to interact with, and generally they do. I don’t care if someone lets someone with one thing ahead of everyone else as long as it still moves along. I would hate for ad hoc queuing to have enforced rules because doing it ad hoc is better overall and adding rules would make it more cumbersome.
It is required to have dogs on leashes here, but sometimes I see one off leash and if it is well behaved I don’t care. They should be on a leash as a best practice, but leashed dogs that are aggressive are worse than a well behaved but unleashed dog so I let the unleashed and behaved ones slide. The unleashed and aggressive ones are the worst.
There are a lot of things where it is best to do something a certain way in general, but when it doesn’t directly address the underlying issue or there are exceptions then I don’t get upset. Like people should use crosswalks properly, unless there is no traffic and they have no real benefit…
gon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Right, OK, I get what you mean.
Well, other than this:
Why?
Getting shot in the head is worse than getting stabbed in the calf, but I still think you shouldn’t stab me in the calf! Obviously that’s a very extreme example, but these rules exist for a reason.
The dog may seem well-behaved for now, but what if it gets bothered by something random, as dogs do? The whole point of the rule is to prevent aggressive dogs from bothering people, because owners seem to always think their dogs wouldn’t hurt a fly. If you only complain about a dog being unleashed after a dog misbehaves, then aren’t you just asking for an issue to happen, instead of preventing it by enforcing the rule?
You get what I mean?
Then again, it does bother me when people don’t use crosswalks or cut in line lol
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Aggressive dogs on leashes often pull themselves free or drag their owner close enough to start violence with other people and other dogs. Well behaved dogs tend to avoid confrontation.
It isn’t saying that any dog couldn’t be suddenly aggressive any more than saying any random person couldn’t suddenly become aggressive. Odds are higher that a dog who is frequently aggressive but on a leash getting close enough to bite or scratch than a well behaved one not on a leash.
While I am perfectly fine with the leash laws being enforced, not being on a leash when well behaved isn’t asking for trouble. Leash laws are there to address less well behaved dogs and the fact that it is impossible to know how well behaved a dog is the first time you meet them.
Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I used to think leashes should be optional until I had a dog who was perfect off-leash. I could be anywhere from a wooded path to a crowded sidewalk and that dog would be right beside me, but I only ever took her on hikes or through calm neighborhoods. Plenty of people knew my dog was friendly and would stop to pet her when I was out.
My boyfriend at the time had her just as long as I did, but couldn’t control her off-leash as well as me. He tried anyway. He walked her next to a highway, she got overwhelmed, went chasing someone across the street, through traffic. Both him and the dog almost got fucked up on the highway when he tried to get her under control.
After that I only let her off leash in places where it was safe and allowed because she’s a dog and it just takes one bad moment to get her or someone else killed.
Beyond that personal anecdote, if you look at pet insurance claims statistics there are hell of a lot of accidents and attacks that start with “Dog was off-leash.”