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• 3dcadmin@lemmy.relayeasy.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  They caused £7 million pounds damage. Now if someone damaged YOUR property and the police did nothing how would you feel? As the £7 million will now have to be found from tax payers money can you not see why the government is pissed… regardless of the cause this sort of action has consequences.

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  • Morlark@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If someone damaged my property, I’d feel pretty aggrieved… and it still wouldn’t make them a terrorist. And the police wouldn’t do nothing, because damaging property is a crime. That property being a few planes doesn’t magically change the equation. Just like the government wouldn’t be doing nothing if they hadn’t designated PA as a terrorist organisation, because a whole raft of criminal charges would still apply.

    Literally, and I want to stress this, literally nobody has suggested that PA should not face appropriate and proportionate consequences for their actions. And you knew that. You knew damed well that people have no problem with the government taking action, as long as that action is legal and democratically responsible. Yet you deliberately chose to dishonestly equate opposition to terrorist designation with support for them getting off scot free, even though that’s an obviously false and mendacious equivalence.

    You are not very skilled at this dishonesty malarkey. Consider yourself called out.

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    • 3dcadmin@lemmy.relayeasy.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Eh? I never said that, I just said there are consequences and people are up in arms… You took what I said and ran with it. Should they do nothing about damage that tax payers will have to pay? Really should they? I never said it wasn’t terrorism either or in fact never said it wasn’t… I’m way more aggrieved they took the winter fuel payment away from my 82 yr old mother because it directly affects me. I was pointing out, simply, that it was £7 million pounds plus damages. 7 million. Tax payers will have to pay that somehow because that is how the military is funded, directly or indirectly. Now consider yourself being called out for trying to shame me when I was just saying it is a large figure - nothing more, nothing less. Whether I feel it is proportional or not is not what I meant and you damn well know it as well, you are just as guilty of what you accuse me of. Go try and shame someone else

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  • apotheotic@beehaw.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Nobody said there shouldn’t be consequences, but they have been labeled as terrorists, which is not a fair or correct response.

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    • 3dcadmin@lemmy.relayeasy.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And… I never said anything about that. If you do something, there are consequences. Those consequences vary but when it is a large sum of money quite often the consequences are disproportionate to the crime (and we can all agree it is a crime, in the literal sense)

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      • apotheotic@beehaw.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        So in other words you had nothing to add to what we were actually talking about and decided you wanted to talk about something else instead?

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  • 0x0@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    if someone damaged YOUR property

    I’m not supporting a genocide, why would someone damage my property?

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