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vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

While not to the same degree as a lot of folks, Fallout got into it some time around New Vegas because it was featured on game fly. Anyways delved headfirst into it and fell in love with the classic games. The post Fallout 4 boom gives me a headache sometimes I just want to talk with old bastards and my fellow autists about Fallout without some profligate butting in cause they watch the TV show.

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julietOscarEcho@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
Russerfrushenrushen kids and their first person fallout games. All my homes know best fallout is third person isometric turn based.

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- vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Technically that includes Brotherhood of Steel, careful there that game is still actively worse than anything Bethesda has made.
  
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  - julietOscarEcho@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    Eh, I remember enjoying it, though never played it again so 🤷 possibly nostalgia. It was just not an open world or rpg.
    
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    julietOscarEcho@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    Oh wait, I was thinking of fallout tactics. BOS was like wasteland skinned diablo right?
    
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megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
I was lucky enough to have played fallout 3 before new Vegas. So the series for me went from “that was fun, interesting setting” to “Wow this is genuinely amazing and feels like a living world that I’m inhabiting and interacting with.”

And then fallout 4 came out, and I was hoping that Bethesda would have learned something from New Vegas. But that was foolish, modern Bethesda doesn’t write stories, they don’t understand characters, they are a software company manufacturing a product, not a studio crafting playable stories. What narrative and story do exist, are the minimal needed to serve the gameplay loops. They make toy boxes, not experiences. Some people like that, but that’s not what I play these kinds of games for.

I haven’t even bothered to try fallout 76. I know what it is, it’s a looter shooter live service game meant to Skinner box you in to spending as much time as possible grinding up numbers and finding the best stats on rare drops. It’s not what I’m in to. I’ve accepted that.

As much as I love the fallout setting and the potential for story and world, there will never be another fallout game, just Bethesda products wearing the aesthetic. There are plenty of other great games out there that have story and gameplay working synergistically to create an experience.

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- vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Well if you want to scratch that CRPG story itch may I suggest Arcanum, Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines, Tainted Grail, Wasteland 2 and 3, and basically all of Owlcat games except maybe Pathfinder kingmaker.
  
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  - megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    played a lot of those.
    
    I remember VtMB particularly fondly.
    
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    vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    Now if only VtMB2 would get out of its development hell so we could know if it’s shit or not.
    
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