Comment on US Politicians praying inside the House of Representatives
limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks agoDemocrats are out of their minds because they, as a party and a majority of participants: embrace electronic voting; do not demand recounts in very close elections; ignore exit polls that show more people voted for them than recorded in the elections they loose; have no interest in paper ballots etc etc.
If a party is against demanding better democratic practices in states they routinely lose. Sometimes loosing only narrowly.
And everyone needs them to win.
Then what would you call it besides a sort of insanity?
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
You have to understand that I’m not trying to defend the Democratic party here. It’s just important to be clear that both sides are not even close to being “equally out of their minds.”
Do I really need to go into details here, or is it not just self-evident based on the past 6 months?
limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
First, I’m rather far far left. Both mainstream parties have traditionally been against things I hold dear. So things promoted by democrats can be poison to me.
But that is not the point.
When you have a party supporting the fascists, and a party that is less so; and that other party is against enabling, asking, paying token lip service: to democratic principles that every real democracy in the world holds dear, practices that would make the fascists loose.
That makes them a passive enabler.
There is nothing wrong with being a professional looser, and a corrupt mess, if that is what your voters want. But when it’s something that important and there is still no mass awareness of the situation, or even a glimmer of interest to do better.
That does make them equally bad. Much like a child abuse scenario where one parent beats up the children and another parent lets them.
And I think future historians will agree with me
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
The lack of nuance here is what kills leftism every fucking time.
limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I stand up for elections that are accurate and fair. If you look at my bio it’s my central belief in what needs to be done in American politics.
I cannot progress any leftest beliefs without accurate elections. So I’m ok if fair elections promote things I dislike very much. But they must be accurately counted.
I think I would respect many democrats more if they shared the same belief; but over the last few years I have become convinced that to be a card carrying Democratic Party member, one must be willing to turn a blind eye to how this country is not very democratic.
So yes, while democrats are better in many ways than republicans, both are harmful