Comment on Thanks to the "you need to buy a new PC for running W11" bullshit, scammers are selling ewaste at full price to inexperienced people

• Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  So keeping it from being actual ewaste it’s now going to be used by someone… That seems like a good thing.

  The only downside I see is that it isn’t disclosed

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  • Moonrise2473@feddit.it ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    My gripe with that is that the seller is scamming inexperienced people, they think that they are buying a brand new PC while instead it’s not

    (The fact that a 400 euro PC includes 600 euro of software licenses should ring a bell about the legitimacy to the buyer, though)

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    • Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      How are they scamming? They list the specs right there again the only issue is that they are used parts potentially, but I’m not sure how you know these examples are specifically sourced as you claim.

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      • Moonrise2473@feddit.it ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It is unrealistic that parts with that age are brand new, available in that quantity. It might happens that some distributor misplaces some box and a couple computers are old new stock after a decade, but hundreds?

        Also: W11 pro OEM is 120 euro and office 365 perpetual doesn’t even exist, and if they meant office 2024 home and business is 299 euro. 120+299 exceed the listing price

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• abfarid@startrek.website ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  But “e-waste” means something so outadet that it’s useless. Or unrepairable. Those computers are perfectly fine for 80% of users.

  And are they explicitly saying that these are new? While you know for sure it’s heavily used equipment?

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  • Moonrise2473@feddit.it ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    “NUOVO” in Capital letters means NEW

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    • abfarid@startrek.website ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      But are you certain they aren’t new and this is a scam? I’m interested to know how you determined those are used.

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      • Moonrise2473@feddit.it ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        First row of the 400 euro one

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      • jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        these are at best new old stock, not truly new

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• LilB0kChoy@midwest.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Banks and corporations change computers every 3-5 years because accounting love to lease rather to buy

  3-5 years is a pretty standard depreciation schedule for IT equipment like computers, peripheral accessories etc.

  Computers and laptops (using Straight-line method): 31.67% with a useful life of 3 years.

  Computers and laptops (using Written Down Value method): 63.16% with a useful life of 3 years

  It really has nothing to do with leasing vs. buying.

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  • Moonrise2473@feddit.it ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yes ok from an accounting point of view.

    But from a functional point of view?

    I see how my bank teller works: they connect to a terminal server

    I see how my other bank works: a VM that runs AS/400 that is acting as a terminal to their mainframe

    Why they’re changing computers so often? The first one can use any PC released in the past 15 years and the second one can use any released in the past 30 years

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    • LilB0kChoy@midwest.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I can’t speak to your specific examples since I don’t work there.

      The reasons beyond caper considerations are things like security, compliance, warranty coverage expiration, standardization across the org, general employee satisfaction, hardware falling out of vendor support.

      I doubt the banks computers are single purpose or purchased specifically for each job role. Sure a 15 or 30 year old computer might technically work but there’s no way it’ll meet regulatory security compliance rules.

      The home user/hobbyist approach really doesn’t scale to corporate IT.

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