Comment on Stop Killing Games Initiative passes 700K milestone
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days agoMan what the fuck are you talking about, it requires an EU, country specific verification document(s) to verify you are an actual real person who lives where you say you do.
Examples:
Estonia
Portugal
Poland
… etc.
You know you can just fill in what you want right? And the number goes up? They even put the format right there.
Ask ChatGPT to make you a script to fill in that form with Beautiful Soup. Takes 30 seconds, if you haven’t already.
It’s cool that you led with Estonia, the one that was botted to 100% signatures a couple of days ago.
You are an idiot.
No you cannot fill in any number you want.
This is an official EU webportal for formal citizens initiatives petitions.
Like, ok, I guess you could just spam it with a bot, and then INTERPOL comes after you for fucking with an official government website, potentially hundreds or thousands of counts of impersonation and lying on a government/legal document.
Like sure, go do a DDOS on I dunno, whitehouse.gov
That is approximately and equivalently stupid thing to do.
I repeat: You are an idiot.
No you cannot
(16 words later)
Like, ok, I guess you could
lol
OK buddy, cybercrime never happens and interpol will come arrest your python script if it did because you messed with an EU “government” form that might have resulted in them having to get a 60 year old Greek politican to ask what a EULA was
You don’t get it.
What happens if you try to just brute force guess at a bunch of possible credit card numbers and addresses and names in some kind of online store?
After maybe a couple of tries, 30 seconds or less of that… the system is rejecting your bullshit fake numbers everytime, and after enough, it auto ip bans you, sends an email to the security admin team, and your journey to getting a chat from INTERPOL or the FBI or what not has now officially begun.
This system doesn’t just accept any old random bullshit you give it.
It is not a random slapdash online poll.
Its only going to count up on that total signatures count if the system actually verifies the info you put in as being consistent with an actual, real, specific system.
I again repeat: You are an idiot.
TheChargedCreeper864@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
I’m with you with the fact that I don’t believe there to be any serious botting attempts, but I didn’t need a digital ID to sign from the Netherlands.
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I think they will verify with the municipality of the person who signed whether they actually exist. Theoretically you could sign on someone you know this information for, but I think IP logging would burn you pretty quick if even one of those is bogus/duplicate.
Also, I don’t know whether such signatures would be counted before any verification would take place
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
I mean yeah, technically there will be some EU member states with different guidelines (due to different id/privacy laws) where maybe yes, a few of them could theoretically maybe be pumped up by a bot.
But uh, for some thing… you’d need a fairly well done bot net to even kind of pull that off for long.
As you say: basic ip logging.
If its all coming from… a single, or small number of ips… assuming the EU is at least as competent of a server admin as I am, yeah, that’s gonna look pretty fuckywucky in the logs, probably get noticed within 24 hours max.
And yes, I also seriously doubt there would not be some kind of verification of signees at at least some level, that would be initiated after all the thresholds are passed.
But its wildly innacurate to portray this as if… oh yeah any idiot vibe coder could just drill this up to whatever number after 30 minutes.
That was the way the internet worked back in 2006, or how stupid say Twitter polls are now.
Not the same level of inept incompetence going on with EU government websites.