culture and ethnicity have nothing to do with race. race is based on phenotype
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Jobe@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
They don’t appear to understand the difference between cultural and gender identity. I’d try this:
“If a white person of european descent were raised from birth by a Sentinel Island tribe, would they be culturally european?”
The answer is obviously no, illustrating that the cultural identity of a person depends on the culture the person was raised in. I don’t know how gender identity works, but clearly how someone is raised has little to do with it.
amino@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Saleh@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
Problem is that “race” isn’t just cultural. How you will be treated definitely depends on how other people perceive your “race” and subsequently it will shape your life reality.
That person you gave as an example? In the US, Canada or most European countries he will be treated better than an actual Citizen born and raised in the respective country who is perceived as “black” or “brown”.
SaltSong@startrek.website 3 weeks ago
But surely how you will be treated definitely depends on how other people perceive your “gender” and subsequently it will shape your life reality?
Everything you described up there sounds exactly like “cultural.”
Saleh@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
That makes gender more like “ethnicity”/“race” rather than “culture” don’t you think?
SaltSong@startrek.website 3 weeks ago
I’m advised that there is no scientific or genetic basis for race. I’m a little unclear on how “ethnicity” is different from “race.”
All of them seem to be social constructs.
seralth@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Social constructed concepts are applied by others to you. Those concepts and frameworks are build up by the community over time. So where your born matters a lot as what framework your raised in is going to be the one you adopt naturally and use to also see yourself though.
That’s fundamentally the problem. Race and gender both, it doesn’t matter what you choose or think of for yourself. You don’t get to decide what others see you as. And since it’s communal you as a single person can’t change it for everyone. It takes many people working together over long periods of time to change.
Which is why it’s such problem, humans are fundamentally a social animal. We WANT to fit in, so when our self perception doesn’t align with what others see us as we become distressed.
So with in the social framework others see us as, we try to realign ourselves to be perceived as what we want. This removes the misalignment of self perception with social perception.
Fundamentally this is one of the biggest aspects of transgender body dysphoria. That social misalignment vs transsexual body dysphoria.
Tho transsexual body dysphoria can also play a role here or none at all.
As transsexual body dysphoria tends to be rather detached entirely from the social construct. People are able to have one or the other and both. Transsexual body dysphoria is very self driven and almost if not entirely based on ones own perception of their own body.
Remember gender is made up and fluid based on the culture. Sex is biological and rooted in the physical.