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• ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Yeah tell that to Pantone LLC

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• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  but “light blue” isn’t a new color. It’s part of the blue spectrum

  A spectrum isn’t a color, its a range of wavelengths. “Light Blue” is a narrower range of wavelengths with higher brightness value than the “Dark Blue” end.

  We define a unique “color” as a specific combination of hue, saturation, and brightness value. “Inventing” a new color is just a question of finding a combination of attributes that hasn’t been produced before. Thanks to the midpoint theorum, you can do this right up to the point of Plank’s constant.

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  • lugal@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    I meant spectrum as in it’s not a fixed value but, fine, I can call it range instead. Doesn’t change my argument.

    What do you mean “hasn’t been produced before”? That comes with a huge burden of proof. People produce color gradients all the time. Pretty many colors in them.

    And if you produce a shade of blue that by happenstance is either more or less saturated than anything else, what have you found there? It isn’t a new color by any meaningful definition. It won’t blow anyone’s mind, it’s just a shade of blue similar but not identical to other blue shades. It falls into the blue range. The observable light is devided into colors, each inhabiting a range. The exact way is different depending on language and other contexts but by no meaningful definition is a color just a single value.

    Before you double down on your definition: the implication is that your definition doesn’t make much sense and to demonstrate it from a different angle: how precise are you going to measure these? Let’s say a common blue has the saturation of 63%, would 64% quality as a new color? What about 63.2%? Where do you draw the line? And if you have to draw lines anyway, why not choose a meaningful way as in defining “blue” as one color?

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    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      What do you mean “hasn’t been produced before”? That comes with a huge burden of proof.

      Sure. But, again, that’s not a question of creativity, just an exhaustive exercise of proving uniqueness.

      It isn’t a new color by any meaningful definition.

      Because color isn’t an invented concept, it is a perceived wavelength value/range. Asking for a “new color” is like asking for a “new number”.

      Under your broader definition of color, we’ve already found the three or seven or I guess nine if you want to count black/white, existing colors. The only way to “invent” new colors is to expand the spectrum by which humans perceive light.

      Understanding how light works and how one might accomplish this takes creativity. But if we’re excluding ultraviolet or infrared because they’re outside the natural visual spectrum, all we can creatively accomplish is proving we’ve exhausted the range of available colors.

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      • lugal@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Under your broader definition of color, we’ve already found the three or seven or I guess nine if you want to count black/white, existing colors

        Which is the point of the meme and I agree with it

        all we can creatively accomplish is proving we’ve exhausted the range of available colors.

        There is a lot we can do creatively besides creating new colors from stretch. The meme is about how the human mind is creative but this one thing it can’t do.

        Besides, how is your method creative? You said yourself it’s pure mathematics.

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