Comment on alternatives to lemm.ee?

• Cowbee@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Doesn’t seem to be the case, looks like you got into one fight regarding electoralism but you’ve even been upvoted on Hexbear in numerous other occasions.

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  • zyratoxx@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I prefer an instance that is unaligned in the lemmy civil war between the auth left and left libs. Having a hexbear, 'grad or ml account would instantly brandmark me in literally any conversation whilst most pure lib instances censor auth left content.

    Overall I prefer to get both sides opinions and then make my own unaligned one

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    • Cowbee@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The struggle with such a standpoint is that both Marxists and Liberals have (to a varying degrees) coherent systems of values and understandings. For Marxists, as an example, Dialectical and Historical Materialism is the baseline, while liberals tend to be more idealist and deny aspects of class struggle. If you agree with either premise, then other conclusions necessarily follow.

      Plus, I don’t really think labeling Marxists as “auth” makes sense. All states are “auth,” as all states are instruments of class oppression, but the class in charge is what makes the biggest impact on how society is run. Liberalism is “auth” as the bourgeoisie rules, Marxism is “auth” as the proletariat rules. It is only by abolishing class that the state can be abolished, and class can only be abolishef by sublimating all forms of property ownership into common, public ownership.

      Either way, tangent aside, I recommend finding instances that match your interest, rather than strictly broad federation. Mander.xyz is a great example of an instance based on science, but it also has broad federation. Check Join-Lemmy.

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      • Edie@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        If you agree with either premise, then other conclusions necessarily follow

        Nah, I’m in the middle, I’m not one of those, I agree with Dialectical and Historical Idealism. (/j)

        Ok, the historical part is just basic liberalism, but I’m not sure about Dialectical Idealism.

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      • zyratoxx@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I agree with the points you make. Of course both Marxism and Liberalism is auth to a degree but I think that both the council republic and the single party state are both more directly auth whilst liberal systems tend to be more indirectly auth - through influencing the media & corruption “LoBbYiSm”.

        Thanks for the mander tip, I might decide between mander and .zip since .zip has broad federation too and multiple frontends and was also recommended a lot.

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  • oyo@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I guess several people saying they would kill me if they ever met me irl, and claiming their statements were “real, actionable threats” is just a typical online fight in a healthy community.

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    • Cowbee@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I didn’t see any of that when glancing through your comments on Hexbear, mind providing an example with the context?

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