Comment on Don't Look Up

• BrainInABox@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Formal Logic of Your Attack:

  Incorrect, that is not the formal logic form of my claim: strawman.

  Strawman Claim: You claim I mis-represented your argument, but I quoted your exact words. There is no misquote or bending of meaning.

  Factually incorrect, as you presented a logical form that was neither my exact words, nor an accurate form of my claim: lying.

  Exact Quotation: You said, “Actually the atrocity propaganda of far right, pro-genocide propaganda outlets like the BBC is exactly what has been used to excuse the IDF’s atrocities.” That is indeed rejecting “C” (the claim that paragliders attacked civilians as reported) on the basis of “BBC = bad source.”

  Incorrect. Strawman

  Formal Logic of Your Rejection:

  Not the formal logic form of my claim: Strawman

  By saying “not the argument I made,” you ignore that you literally attacked the source (BBC) and drew a conclusion about the truth of its content. Claiming “strawman” here misrepresents what you literally wrote.

  False: lying.

  Exact Quote: I pointed out that you said, “there are so many logical fallacies in your comments…,” implying “if I committed fallacies, my conclusion is false.” That is precisely the Fallacy Fallacy.

  Claims “exact quote”, then adds in things that weren’t said: lying.

  You respond by calling me “hypocrite,” which is itself an Ad Hominem

  Incorrect, not what an ad-hominem is.

  If (∃ Fallacy in Greg’s argument) then (Greg’s conclusion is false). That inference is invalid because identifying a fallacy in Premise ≠ the Conclusion must be false.

  Not what I claimed: strawman.

  You wrote, “That was factually untrue and instead of admitting that you were wrong and adjusting your world view…”

  Those are are your words: LYING.

  “my statement (P: paragliders attacked civilians)” is already false. You treat “¬P” as if it has been demonstrated, rather than proving it.

  False: strawman.

  That is an attempt to discredit me in advance by labeling me as “in a media bubble” for trusting BBC.

  False: strawman

  You define: Uses(BBC) ⇒ (I ∈ Fascist/Mediabubble).

  False: strawman

  Claiming “strawman” here ignores your own words.

  False, you are not using my own words, you are using inaccurate formalizations of my claims that are strawmen: lying.

  DAMN SON, You REALLY love strawmen. Seems to be all you have!

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