Comment on I hope i don't get downvoted for this

• Carmakazi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  There’s a hell of a lot that separates us from other animals. Throw your smartphone in the trash and go frolic in the woods for the rest of your life if you are so convinced that thousands of years of human socialization is a mistake.

  I don’t like being called a deviant…because I like that wearing clothes is the norm? Maybe in return I’d posit that you’re actually a bunch of perverts who enjoy casual sexual encounters, and all this talk about normalization is bullshit?

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  • Vespair@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Show me where I said we should reject all human progress and revert to animals.

    No, I simply said we should evaluate the social choices made by humanity, even ones as old as clothing. I’m not saying we should reject it all; I’m saying we should be thoughtful and investigate these things to find out if they hold true or not.

    Personally, I think in the case of nudity and shame, we’ll quickly find it doesn’t really hold much water beyond empty religious mumbo-jumbo.

    And who exactly is calling you a deviant for liking clothing? Was it not you who came in with the statement, “Nudists are weird people and I wouldn’t accept what they have to say about sexuality at face value,” and now you’re trying to act like you’re just responding to some sort of victimization from nudists of all people after throwing the first punch? Come on, dude.

    But I’m sure it all does just come down to religious mumbo-jumbo bullshit for you because you said “perverts who enjoy casual sexual encounters,” as if a healthy casual sexual encounter is somehow a “perversion.”

    So, like… grow up and get better opinions, maybe?

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    • Carmakazi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I said “weird.” Furries are weird, those people who plaster their cars with bumper stickers are weird. That doesn’t mean that they’re bad or we have to do something about them. “Deviant” probably wasn’t the right word because what you insinuated with

      I can’t even begin to fathom what your mind is like

      Is much worse.

      Hence, I said that last bit to make you mad, not because I actually believed that. Why should I just take your bullshit on the nose and move on?

      There is nothing wrong with casual sex. There is something wrong with liking casual sex and simultaneously berating people for being horny or casting unwanted gazes.

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      • Vespair@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Alright, fair, I’ll take the note on your use of deviant as a response to my unfathomable comment. I’m did not mean to imply your thinking was deviant, as that word comes with a negative suggestion, just incomprehensible, but I understand the ambiguity. So I retract my comment on victimhood with that new context.

        I don’t retract the rest of my ire though, sorry, and now I’m confused as hell, because in what world are people who engage in casual sex the same ones berating people for being horny, and how is that relevant to the conversation at hand? I feel like I accidentally skipped a couple important chapters in the book that is this discussion.

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