Comment on The number of manipulative, disinformation posts on lemmy is too damn high
dragontamer@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Lemmy.ml started off as marxist-lenninist site. All sites need to start with a niche and I doubt any future social network will avoid the niche issue.
I think normies are turning off of Lemmy recently, which naturally causes the extremists feel more loud (because the extremists will NEVER leave this site).
Trying to figure out a good social network is like looking for a good hangout in real life. The people who frequent is entirely the picture. It’s hard to compete vs commercial interests like Blue sky or whatever as they pop up though.
Still, Threads, BlueSky and Twitter are all obviously suspect sites that will seed algorithms with their message. Lemmy doesn’t do that. Lemmy has its own issues but it’s very much a pick your poison situation.
Nope. After 2010s proved that the internet is the central location for political battles with Wikipedia Blackouts causing major political shifts, Pandoras Box has been opened.
The internet is now the premier location for propaganda and politicalization.
This is only true if people feed the monster.
Ummm. Elon Musk made $100,000,000,000 by making internet propaganda about how his electric cars are better than internal combustion, lies about their capabilities (full self driving), lies about how often they explode and lies about how well his Robots work. And then the propaganda is so strong he becomes Buddy in chief and people think that literally paying Musk another $50Billion is a good idea.
The cats out of the bag. Internet propaganda is too cheap and too effective. Everyone will be doing it if only to counter Elon Musk (let alone make money for themselves like through bullshit crypto coins or whatever).
Just to be clear, I’m not accusing lemmy (whoever / whatever that is as a 'thing) of adding messages, but bad actors are doing so to control the short-term narrative for (perhaps, mainly) capitalist reasons.
Kinda like propaganda gone wild. A Cambridge Analytica’s former employee book, mindfuck is a good read.
hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 1 week ago
I don't think it's as easy as that. The developers hold that resentment. But that doesn't mean it translates to the users. Also Lemmy as we know it today has be very much shaped by the Reddit exodus. So even if it had been marxist at some point (which I'd argue it didn't), that's long gone.