Whataboutism makes you look like an idiot
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MajesticElevator@lemmy.zip 3 weeks agoMeanwhile Valve pushing unrelated gambling to everyone, including children, through their case unboxing
Krudler@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
WhatsTheHoldup@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Not OP but your very first sentence was
It’s very simple, valve is a gamer company.
It’s not “whataboutism” to directly respond to your point and try to argue they aren’t a gamer company.
I do agree with you overall though that Epic can suck it.
MajesticElevator@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
You’re saying Valve acts for gamers, not for profits. I’m proving you wrong. You’re just entitled and love Valve.
MajesticElevator@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Wrote unrelated instead of unregulated, which changed the meaning of my sentence. Fixed it.
kadup@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Counter Strike is a M rated game
MajesticElevator@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Oh so they have no responsibility at all then. Might as well stop checking IDs when people enter casinos or buy alcohol because they’re not supposed to if they’re underaged.
They make a deliberately addictive mechanic that they know ruin peoples’ life, and they also know they have a big young audience, but you think that’s fine? Shame of you, really.
It’s also in TF2 btw
And whatever you say, it’s still exploiting adults. In many countries, like France, casinos are legally obliged to detect addicted people, prevent minors from playing, and let people opt out legally, and never allow them to gamble afterwards. Valve blatantly doesn’t respect this and takes efforts to bypass the law. They got banned in Belgium and France, and used a legal loophole to avoid being banned in France.
kadup@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I mean… Do you support the recent proposal to ban online porn? How about alcohol?
Valve provides a game, an appropriate age rating, a description of the monetization scheme, and a way for users to freely trade items.
If minors transform that into a gambling addiction, it’s certainly a big problem, but I don’t see how that translates into “Steam bad, Epic Games good”
MajesticElevator@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
No, but that’s another subject. Gambling is much worse imo, as it impacts your finance. Gambling is already banned/regulated and Valve is avoiding the current laws.
It’s already pretty well restricted for minors. The world would be better without it, but as nicotine, can’t go back now that people are used to it.
Never said that.
I talked about this because the original comment said Valve wasn’t here for money. Why do they push gambling then?
Goretantath@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Parents should do their damn job and prevent their kids from playing what they arent supposed to, or teach them right from wrong.
MajesticElevator@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Teens aren’t kids. Gambling is addictive to everyone.