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grue@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

So then the question becomes, why is processed food and other shit so pervasive in the average American diet? That’s what an environmental factor is.

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Jujugatame@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
You are 100% correct that we as a society have a problem with this

That’s why the individual has to take extra care to eat right and excersise. Their doctor needs to emphasize this as much as possible.

VCan we fix out society? I don’t know, I sure hope so. But in the meantime people are responsible for their own health.

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Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Eating health is a responsibility of an individual.

Trying to blame the omnious evil system instead of the responsibility of each individual is absolutely missing the point.

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- grue@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Then why are Americans so much worse at it, on average, than people in e.g. France or Japan. You can’t just say “hurt durr Americans are just irresponsible;” that’s a bullshit cop-out and you know it.
  
  I’m trying to have a conversation about what it would take to actually solving the problem here; if you just want to feel morally superior you can go ahead and fuck off.
  
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  - Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    
    You can’t just say “hurt durr Americans are just irresponsible;”
    
    Actually, I can. That’s why americans are more obese and have more credit card debt - it all boils down to irresponsibility.
    
    I’m trying to have a conversation about what it would take to actually solving the problem here
    
    Solving the problem would be rather simple, subsidize healthy food so a cucumber doesn’t cost 6$. Make mandatory cooking classes in school so kids know how to cook, at least to some extent. The magical word is “education”.
    
    even if the problem really were that Americans were more irresponsible on average compared to people from other countries
    
    There is no “if”. They are.
    
    there would have to be a systemic reason why
    
    No. It boils down to people eating shitty food and not knowing/having no interest in knowing how to cook.
    
    Like, we can argue all day about american processed food being full of additives and sugar and high fructose corn sirup etc, which is certainly the case, but at the end of the day, the people who eat it know that this is the case, so they are irresponsible, and if they don’t, it once again boils down to education.
    
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