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AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 20 hours agoEver heard of Holodomor?
There are enough links in this thread already showing that this is literally nazi propaganda that I think it’s fair to assume you’re a deliberate nazi instead of an idiot getting strung along
So this user thinks Ukraine are Nazis and Putin did right by attacking them.
I am supposedly a nazi apologist by this logic (???).
When in fact, it is you who denies Holodomor and perverts the facts about Ukraine war. You who turns a blind eye to Putin and… Stalin(???).
Looks like troll factory to me so useless to argue.
The Soviet archives having been opened since the fall of the union, you’re an especially fucking stupid person and/or a nazi zealot.
Yeah, their cult’s position on Ukraine is simply atrocious. They cannot deal with the fact that Russia is an imperialistic nation and since Ukraine is supported by US (if we can say that) this makes it easy for them.
This is why if you discuss that in Ukraine 15k civilians died since 2022 only they will tell you that they are all Nazis, or that it’s Ukraine fault, because they use them as shields (same claim Israel does, but guess where they stand on that), or something like this.
This attitude is then completely reinforced by being in a echo chamber with extreme peer pressure and silly moderation, so one’s opinion keeps being constantly entrenched.
As a communist myself, my diagnosis is that that population is mostly 20-something westerners who grew up in the political vacuum post-1991 and adopted uncritically views of the cold war. Most of them probably feel an inherent guilt by living in countries where they benefit from everything they swear against, and the online cosplay as a revolutionary is their way to cope and self-identify as a person living by their own morals.
My suggestion is to block generously.
Don’t forget that Putin’s troll factories are a proven fact and the employees are spread throughout the internet. I would not be surprised if this is just what some of these guys do for a living.
If they do, they are really bad at it. They are basically a close community and they got isolated even in a tiny community like (the wider) Lemmy.
I do remember a fun anecdote where a post was shared from a propaganda website, one of those that would appear here. The article was clearly faked, the alleged “Ukrainian Nazi profile” on Instagram didn’t exist, the same news couldn’t be found in Russian (only in English) and the text was the same across 3-4 random websites. They were discussing it seriously of course, but between them, which again, to me suggest more an echo chamber rather than a deliberate effort to push propaganda.
Either way, I did block generously :)
sudneo@lemm.ee 14 hours ago
Maybe you should practice a big dose of humility, considering that one comment up you were making stuff up about what words mean, and now you are misinterpreting a single quote about a single opinion about the holodomor that focuses purely on whether it was intentional or not.
Calling it “Nazi propaganda” is just complete nonsense.
To reiterate, “enough links in this thread” refers to one out of 16 views listed in a Wikipedia page, which for sure is not an exhaustive list of all scholars’ views. Nowhere is to be found that holodomor is “basically Nazi propaganda” and the fact you think anybody questioning your uninformed opinion is a Nazi apologist is just a mental shortcut you are taking to protect your views from any level of scrutiny.
Maybe deal with the fact that you simply are not equipped to discuss this topic.