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I’d say “democratic” rather than “consumerist”; that’s a really odd choice of term (and a poor one I think). I live in a ward that’s solidly single-party in an FPTP system. Whether I vote or not is strictly irrelevant and always will be. There is no incentive for my representative to be anything other than a party cypher.

I’d rather see a PR system in place (STV by preference, but we’d probably end up with AMS so that party sinecures are still possible). For single-seat wards, I’d sooner have ranked-choice, because at the moment people have to thread a needle in order to attempt to stave off the headbanger candidates.

Mandatory voting I’d be less keen on unless it came with a “reopen nominations” but the issue with that is that that option would win by a landslide.

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Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
No i meant consumerist.

The carelessly detached mindset that is promoted by my vote doesn’t matter so you give me the lie to it leads to a benign indolence of voters, making them just like shoppers listlessly wandering around a mall, being mildly entertained for a few moments by some trinket.

Also, i want to be clear, I’s clearly stating Mandatory voting as a first step, not an only step. Lots more could be done, someboptions are as you highlight. Lots more can be done is Aus to, we are far from as effective democratically as we could be.

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- gedhrel@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Definitely a poor opinion then.
  
  My concern isn’t for my own vote. It’s for everyone; there’s a pervading notion that voting is either irrelevant, useless, or a balancing act to find the least-worst option.
  
  I don’t recognise the “listless wandering” you describe. It’s poetic but doesn’t reflect what’s actually going on here: people aren’t looking for entertainment; they are worried how they’re going to pay the bills. It would frankly be a relative utopia to have the privilege to not care about politics and what it’s doing to people.
  
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  - Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    Good opinion, and it seems you agree,
    
    My opposition to your words
    
    ~My vote doesn’t matter so you give me the lie to it
    
    Is tackling the same notion as,
    
    It’s for everyone; there’s a pervading notion that voting is either irrelevant, useless, or a balancing act to find the least-worst option
    
    So you actually agree with me, you just don’t understand you do.
    
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    gedhrel@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Okay.
    
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