Don’t look at me. I voted for the Green party. The Dems and GOP are a single party masquerading as two as far as I’m concerned. The Corporatist Party.
Comment on Congress Moving Forward On Unconstitutional Take It Down Act
pglpm@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
I don’t understand why they keep saying “the Trump admin is doing this”, “the Trump admin is doing that”, and so on. It isn’t the Trump admin: it’s the majority of USA citizens that’s doing this and that. They voted it. They’re the first responsible and guilty. Each one of that majority.
The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
termus@beehaw.org 3 weeks ago
I voted for Jill Stein in 2012. Then I realized she’s just as much of a grifter as the others. Also why was she at a dinner with Putin and Mike Flynn?
nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
she was an invited guest who paid her own way to celebrate one of the new media outlets that would let her get her message out. she didn’t make the seating chart.
termus@beehaw.org 3 weeks ago
That doesn’t make it better. So she paid money to somehow get seated at the same table as Putin and Flynn. If you find yourself at a table with that asshole and you don’t relocate, you’re asshole too.
sculd@beehaw.org 3 weeks ago
Exactly, if they voted for this, they deserve this.
LukeZaz@beehaw.org 3 weeks ago
I’m so sick and tired of this gleeful throw-people-under-the-bus attitude that effectively dehumanizes people because they “voted wrong,” as if there aren’t millions of people among Trump’s voterbase who were effectively tricked by an entire network of con-men and grifters. As if there isn’t a giant oil-baron-funded media machine working tirelessly to convince people of a smorgasbord of lies.
I find it disgusting how easily you and others with similar takes will cheer on the suffering of your fellows. And let the Republican Party off scot-free in the process. Because apparently blaming a bunch of people who – let’s be real – by-and-large don’t pay attention to politics is apparently more important than blaming the people who’re deliberately engineering mass suffering. Not to mention how you’re currently partaking in schadenfreude over a problem that’s affecting many people you ostensibly agree with and care about! Everybody in America has to deal with the consequences of this bill!
Nobody in the U.S. voted for censorship or for fascism, save an extraordinarily scant few terrible, terrible people. If you decide that vast swathes of people “deserve this” all because of that few, I don’t think you ever actually wanted to help anyone so much as you wanted an excuse not to have to care.
sculd@beehaw.org 3 weeks ago
I tried the “have empathy” approach in 2016. It doesn’t work.
This is the part where I would blame the Democratic Party for failing to provide a better road map for future. They were captured by neoliberals in Wall Street, in tech industry, etc. Of course, the Democrats are still miles better than whatever Trump is proposing.
For the average person, algorithm dependency in news consumption is increasingly becoming an issue with no effective ways to combat the problem. Google, Facebook, Musk controlled major platforms and they also have the money to influence real world politics.
LukeZaz@beehaw.org 3 weeks ago
I agree with your second paragraph, and find your third to be understandable (though I would contend that propaganda has been a problem for a long time now and wasn’t made meaningfully worse by tech, just different). Where I lose you completely though is this comment’s first statement.
Neither of your other points stated here back up a lack of empathy. In fact, they counter it, as you’ve provided two far better things to get mad at. I hope you haven’t abandoned empathy because it didn’t change minds, because empathy isn’t supposed to be contingent on getting people to agree with you.
LukeZaz@beehaw.org 3 weeks ago
I said most of what I wanted to say in this comment, but I’d like to take an extra moment here to point out that you are currently making apologia for fascism.
Putting it bluntly, I don’t give a flying fuck how many people voted for Trump – which wasn’t the majority, by the way, since not everyone votes – there is no amount of votes that makes “doing fascism” okay.
AckPhttt@beehaw.org 3 weeks ago
Um, even among the people who cast a vote for President in 2024, Trump didn’t get a majority of the votes. He got fewer than half of the Presidential votes: en.wikipedia.org/…/2024_United_States_presidentia…
LukeZaz@beehaw.org 3 weeks ago
I’m aware. My point was that this wasn’t a majority even besides that. Not sure why you seem to be phrasing this as a counterpoint, though, given that it reinforces my comment?
AckPhttt@beehaw.org 3 weeks ago
It’s not a counterpoint, but emphasizes an even stronger point. Few Presidents win a majority of those eligible to vote. But to become President without also winning the majority of cast votes is unusual, and it’s especially important to emphasize when such a President claims they have a mandate due to being “popular”, imo.