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Stop vascillating. Answer my original questions directly. What about this case demands the suspension of due process. If what you say is true (which I am incredibly dubious of), why wouldn’t you just prove this in a court of law rather than immediately jump to.an extra judicial deportation?

If it can happen to this guy, it can happen to you.

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Chucklestheclown@hilariouschaos.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
He already had a deputation order. He just couldn’t be deported to El Salvador. I’ve never suggested he shouldn’t be removed from El Salvador.

We need to send him an another country or bring him back and put him in prison here.

And no, it can’t happen to me. I’m not a gang banger, I’m but an illegal alien. I’m a veteran who was born in this country and do not commit crimes. For some reason democrats love to commit crimes.

I have never beat my partner. I have never even yelled at her.

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- Ostrakon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Without due process, what is stopping authorities from lying about any of that and carting you off to El Salvador? You assume this can’t happen to you, and yet, you have zero actual proof of these alleged crimes. The man’s wife literally issued a statement contradicting your position.
  
  I recommend you visit the Holocaust museum in DC and really pay attention to how this sort of rhetoric played out in Germany. If every last person doesn’t have the same rights, then those rights by definition do not exist. If he’s a criminal, he can and should be convicted by a jury of his peers. You keep repeating that he is a criminal but you have not addressed the central question of why this person doesn’t have the same right to a trial any other individual would.
  
  Let’s flip the script and see if it makes sense to you. Let’s say a Democratic president made the same claims about you. Your wife objects, but is ignored. You claim you have a legal right to be in this country, are a citizen even, but the president just lies and you are deported by their minions anyway.
  
  Do you see why that wouldn’t be acceptable?
  
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  - Chucklestheclown@hilariouschaos.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    It couldn’t happen to me. I am not an illegal gang banger who beats my wife.
    
    Don’t compare deporting illegal criminal immigrants to the holocaust. Jews were not criminals. Keep your anti-Semitic views to yourself.
    
    Once again I am a citizen. Where has a legal citizen been deported ?
    
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    Ostrakon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    How do you know this person is an illegal gang banger? What assurances do you have that that statement is actually true?
    
    Also, I don’t think you understand the point of my comparison. They didn’t start putting Jews in concentration camps - it started with rhetoric like what you are parroting, desperately justifying, without evidence or due process, that some people didn’t deserve their rights. That is the foothold authoritarianism needs to erode and eventually destroy the rights of everyone.
    
    The Jews in Nazi Germany were stripped of their rights of citizenship and forced to emigrate. And it started with flimsy justifications like we are seeing with this Garcia person. Did he commit some crime that merits deportation? Maybe. Personally, I’m incredibly skeptical of anything this administration claims. Either way, how can we say for sure without a trial? Without evidence that can be verified without the game of telephone that is the incredibly biased media? You keep repeating these claims as though they are facts, but do you actually have any direct evidence?
    
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    TachyonTele@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    You are a clown that refuses to understand basic reading comprehension.
    
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