Comment on Denying the Human Sex Binary Turns Biology into Nonsense

• Irelephant@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Do you agree with the advanced scientific consesnus, that sex is not binary?

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  • tahira@hilariouschaos.com ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Gamete size is binary. It’s sperm or eggs, there’s no “spergs” or “speggs”. The advanced scientific consensus is exactly that sex is defined by gamete size. You won’t be able to cite anything else, because that’s the plain reality.

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• Zagorath@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  There is no such consensus. Scientifically, “sex” is so much more complicated. Hormones, hormone receptors, gonads, genitalia, secondary sex characteristics, and reproductive gametes, to name just a few of the components of biological sex.

  People who are biologically known to be inter-sex (never mind anything about gender or identity) outnumber those with natural red hair.

  But all of this is relatively unimportant. Only a doctor would ever need to know most of these things about a person, and only a doctor or a potential sexual partner would need to know the others. There’s no circumstance in which anyone else needs to know any of these details about a person in order to decide how their interactions with that person should go. Especially not anyone who doesn’t have a close personal relationship with the person. Gender is how someone expresses themselves in society, and that’s the only thing that matters in most circumstances.

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  • tahira@hilariouschaos.com ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Sex is defined by gamete size. You’re confusing sex with phenotype/genotype. Intersex people still produce one of two gamete sizes

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• Rivalarrival@lemmy.today ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Do you know what gametes I produce, if any? Do you need to know what gametes I might produce in order to conduct this conversation?

  I think I’m managing to convey my meaning to you, and receiving your meaning in return, without knowledge of what’s happening in your abdomen/pelvis.

  Whatever concern you have about the terms “sex”, “binary”, and “immutable”, it isn’t scientific.

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  • tahira@hilariouschaos.com ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It doesn’t matter what I think of you. The reality is that you produce one of two gamete sizes, and that determines your biological sex. This is binary and immutable. If you can’t agree with scientific consensus that’s fine, just be honest.

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    • Rivalarrival@lemmy.today ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It doesn’t matter what I think of you.

      Exactly.

      That is exactly the point. My sex is not a matter of your concern.

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