Comment on Denying the Human Sex Binary Turns Biology into Nonsense

• communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Are you misreading the article?

  I am not, he addresses this point by saying “this is not a sex”, there being sexless humans implies a non-binary of sexes, this is just one way to look at it and a matter of opinion.

  Nowhere is a single PhD cited that agrees with you.

  I already gave this:

  www.stateofunion.org/2024/03/07/…/[1]

  You might think this source supports your claim, but notice "Specifically, 58% agreed sex is binary except in rare intersex cases, while 29% said it is not and 13% had no view. "

  Plenty of PHD’s agree with me, even the 58% agree with me.

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  • tahira@hilariouschaos.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    So I would agree with that 58%, because there’s no option for “Yes, and intersex is irrelevant”. It’s honestly a terrible poll, most likely not written by a biologist. I wouldn’t be surprised if that 13% put down “Prefer not to say” as a sort of “This is a bad poll” response.

    I’ll let the quoted scientist in the source of the poll respond.

    “Leading science journals have been adopting this relativist view, thereby opposing fundamental biological facts,” he said.

    “While we fully endorse efforts to create a more inclusive environment for gender-diverse people, this does not require denying biological sex.

    “On the contrary, the rejection of biological sex seems to be based on a lack of knowledge about evolution and it champions species chauvinism, inasmuch as it imposes human identity notions on millions of other species.”

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    • communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      i agree that poll is insufficiently specific, however, even if 100% of that 58% agreed with you, that would still not meet the criteria for scientific consensus, which is typically in the 90’s

      pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10563654/ this might interest you, if you bother to read it, I disagree that it has anything to do with a lack of evolutionary knowledge, in fact I find the people most ignorant of evolution strongly hold this belief regularly, but that is a mere anecdote. None of the roundtable had anything to do with that, those claims seem baseless and dataless.

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      • tahira@hilariouschaos.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        That link is a great example of why gender studies degrees aren’t worth the paper they’re printed on, goddamn. They’re not doing science, they’re zealots pushing for a new religion to infect science just like creationists of old 🤦

        www.lifescied.org/doi/10.1187/cbe.21-12-0343

        We provide teaching suggestions derived from student interviews for making biology more queer-inclusive.

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