Comment on Jack Dorsey would like to ‘delete all IP law’.

• EnsignWashout@startrek.website ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Voiding all IP law would cause a huge loss in the creative community.

  I agree. I wouldn’t be in favor of “burn it down” if I thought we could negotiate better terms with our current IP oligarchs.

  If people can no longer pay their bills by creating then they stop creating and work.

  I’ll still be available to do creative work. It wouldn’t change my current work-for-hire efforts.

  Very little valuable IP is held by actual creators, today.

  Why dump years and your heart and soul into a great book just to have it distributed for free and be poor.

  Are you an actual published creator, or a temporarily embarrassed future billionaire? Is there a version of success for you that isn’t just selling to a big IP company to get enough money to retire? That’s what it looks like, to me. The peak of my possible success would be to write something that threatens/tempts the big IP holders enough to force them to buy me out. If I don’t take the buy out, they eventually bury my thing with their advertising power.

  I don’t really disagree with you. I’m actually in favor of keeping and fixing IP laws, if that’s possible.

  But I believe the IP laws we have now only serve our billionaire employers. So, as a creator, I won’t fight to keep our current IP laws.

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  • Lightor@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I agree. I wouldn’t be in favor of “burn it down” if I thought we could negotiate better terms with our current IP oligarchs.

    So since we can’t save it, we just burn it down? The legal system isn’t doing so hot either, should we just get rid of laws? I mean rich people can break then and regular people can’t, should we just get rid of them since we can’t fix it right now?

    I’ll still be available to do creative work. It wouldn’t change my current work-for-hire efforts.

    I don’t know what kind of work you do, but it would impact many. You can’t show drafts, you can’t present mock-ups, etc, because they can just take those. You could make art for someone saying they will pay and then they don’t. You could get a refund, but they just copied the art and it’s theirs now.

    This also harms people who in literature especially. They don’t own the book they write. And for anyone to appreciate it, they also have the ability to give it away for free. But I guess since it doesn’t impact you, it’s somehow not a problem?

    Very little valuable IP is held by actual creators, today.

    This may be true, but guess how they lost that IP? They sold it. They owned it and were able to sell it to a bigger company that could run away with it. Without IP the selling part goes away, they just take it and run away with it. I mean come on, how do you think authors make money?

    Are you an actual published creator, or a temporarily embarrassed future billionaire? Tell me you don’t understand empathy without telling me. You made it very clear before by the “it won’t impact me” statement, but this is just next level. Because I and many other can see how this will cause damage, that means nothing because we’ve not been personally impacted?

    But that falls apart when I have actually created and sold software. I have created IP. And I’ve had actually to defend my personal IP from a previous employer.

    Is there a version of success for you that isn’t just selling to a big IP company to get enough money to retire? That’s what it looks like, to me.

    What? You’re just making up a scenario in your head. If you can sell your IP to company and live comfortably for the rest of your life while they do all the heavy lifting and you get paid while people enjoy what you create, how is that some big loss? Because you want all the money? Sure, then self publish, it’s an option. Start a small LLC, people do it, stop acting like it’s the only way forward.

    The peak of my possible success would be to write something that threatens/tempts the big IP holders enough to force them to buy me out. If I don’t take the buy out, they eventually bury my thing with their advertising power.

    I mean, false. This is just wrong, people have created companies, brands, book series, etc. This just seems like you have decided you have no chance so you don’t try and want to tear down the system so you can get yours.

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