Correct, new EVs have even better batteries than first gen too. My first EV I replaced the battery, but not because they’re was anything wrong with it: that battery likely would have lasted at least twice as long, but an enterprising engineer created a battery upgrade that doubled the original range in the same footprint, and we can expect further improvements in batteries, so I expect to upgrade again in future, maybe 10-15 years, and double the range again.
Old EV batteries can be reused and make ideal off grid house batteries.
Whirlybird@aussie.zone 1 week ago
A small study by a pro EV company, reported on by a pro EV site…yeah nah lol.
The warranty is what matters. Unless an EV is 10% of its sale price, if it’s even within 2 years of its warranty on the battery ending it’s no deal. Might it last 10 years past the warranty retaining ~70% of its capacity? Sure. It’s possible. Could it also just drop dead at the drop of a hat, or capacity just drop like a rock? Absolutely. One of those scenarios will cost you almost the price of a new car, the other won’t.
DropBear@theblower.au 1 week ago
Yet you can only assert your belief @Whirlybird
Even a little trustworthy evidence would enhance your credibility.
"... generally, EV batteries are designed to last the lifetime of the vehicle ..."
https://www.whichcar.com.au/advice/when-do-ev-batteries-need-to-be-replaced
I can keep providing references all day, if you want.
#ElectricVehicles
#EVbatteries
Whirlybird@aussie.zone 1 week ago
And that lifetime is what, 8 years according to their warranty?
You can provide references for whatever you want, but like I said - the warranty is what matters. If the manufacturer warranty is for x years, anything after that is not guaranteed and is a massive risk because of how expensive the replacement is. This isn’t hard to understand.
You might think there’s no risk in buying an electric car that’s out of warranty (or approaching the end of its warranty), but the tens of thousands of dollars you’d have to pay to replace the battery 1/2/5 years down the track says otherwise.
DropBear@theblower.au 1 week ago
@Whirlybird
The average warranty for internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicles varies depending on the manufacturer and region, but typically falls within the range of 3 to 7 years, with some up to 10.
https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/details/best-car-warranties-revealed-118462/
So you're saying that ICE vehicles typically last 10 years or less.
There are risks in buying anything, new or used. The warranty is just a limited guarantee.
It used to be said of ICE vehicles that they'd never replace the horse. The big problem being that you can't grow the fuel.
With EVs, at least power points are pretty common. That wasn't the case for petrol stations, back in the day.
It's a management issue. The adaptable survived. You're just proving that you're not a survivor.
https://afma.org.au/new-ev-batteries-may-last-beyond-vehicle-lifetime-study/