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nef@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

If you believe that AI is “conscious” while it’s processing prompts, and also believe that we shouldn’t kill machine life, then AI companies are commiting genocide at an unprecedented scale.

For example, each AI model would be equivalent to a person taught everything in the training data. Any time you want something from them, instead of asking directly, you make a clone of them, let it respond to the input, then murder it.
That is how all generative AI works. Sounds pretty unethical to me.

And, by the way, we do know exactly what happens inside processors when they’re running, that’s how processors are designed. Running AI doesn’t magically change the laws of physics.

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skulblaka@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
People taught AI to speak like a middle manager and thinks this means the AI is sentient, instead of proving that middle managers aren’t

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photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
I’m not saying I believe they’re conscious, all I said was that I don’t know and neither do you. Of course we know what’s happening in processors. We know what’s happening in neuronal matter too. What we don’t know is how consciousness or sentience emerges from large networks of neurons.

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- WrenFeathers@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  But they’re saying they do know. And they are correct.
  
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  - photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    I know I’m the smartest man on earth. And I’m correct.
    
    See how crazy that sounds? Just because someone is confident about something doesn’t make it true.
    
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    octopus_ink@slrpnk.net ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Please apply that to this:
    
    all I said was that I don’t know and neither do you.
    
    Because there is not any evidence whatsoever that there is consciousness associated with LLMs. We have ample evidence that consciousness is associated with biological life.
    
    I’m not even aware of a scholarly theory suggesting there might be consciousness. Now, I’m not an LLM expert, but neither are you (hurr durr) and so I think if you are going to suggest that maybe consciousness exists there, it should be based off something other than “hey man you never know” which is pretty much what it feels like.
    
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    WrenFeathers@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    I think you know exactly how empirically provable facts work. And I also think you’re a troll.
    
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