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• rando895@lemmygrad.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  As someone within that community: it demonstrates the “publish or perish” mindset. Without enough publications it becomes impossible to get funding to do your research. Thus, the incentives are there for producing more publications and not better research.

  Unsurprisingly, encouraging greater throughput results in greater throughput. And without proper support quality suffers. For example, a large portion of research is done by underpaid graduate students.

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  • wewbull@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    …but then they should perish (not literally).

    If you’ve got nothing to publish, is your work valuable?

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    • Tja@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      You might need more time to get good quality results. You might want to sleep more than 5h a day. You might even want to enjoy life.

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    • rando895@lemmygrad.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      That is the argument, but when those with more publications get more funding than those with better publications, the drive is to produce more.

      Don’t get me wrong, there are still good publications out there, but the incentives and pressures move the needle to the quantity side. How do you measure goodness? I dont know. But what we are doing now isn’t working, which is evidenced by, well how everything is going at the moment.

      Of course we could moralize it and say something like “ohh well scientists are just greedier and lazier than they used to be” but that is thought terminating and no solution can be found that way.

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      • wewbull@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I totally accept that quantity shouldn’t matter more than quality. I mean that’s how we are where we are. I just don’t think zero publishable results is a good sign either.

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