Comment on Can we defederate from rdq2.net?
BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 8 months agoThis thread is about lemm.ee, the instance your account is on, defederating from a Nazi pedo instance. That means not having them in your corner of the internet. Why are you arguing against this?
flashgnash@lemm.ee 8 months ago
I’m not lol just wanted to have a conversation about the topic because the “free speech except these people” viewpoint requires some objective point of reference for what’s acceptable.
It’s fairly obvious to 99% of people when it’s things like Nazis and pedos but it’s not always as clearcut with more controversial topics
Lemmy instances having their own rules and defederating from those they don’t like seems like the best solution provided there are enough of them that users can jump ship if they don’t like the way they’re run
Nakoichi@hexbear.net 8 months ago
Okay o’ wise liberal of the lake. What are these “controversial topics”?
Please enlighten us and get to the fucking point.
flashgnash@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Furries, lot of people don’t like them but also don’t think they should be globally silenced unless they are actual zoophiles
People using words other people don’t like that aren’t necessarily used in a hateful way, some people don’t want to see that some don’t care.
Was on a gmod server before that had a total free speech rule where people would say horrendous shit to be edgy but one day they banned one slur for one group of people specifically which felt kinda weird
Hexbears. A lot of people call for you guys to get defederated, but have seen a few hexbears be genuinely nice and helpful. I’m sure you can see my point with that one
BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 8 months ago
Such as?
flashgnash@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Furries, lot of people don’t like them but also don’t think they should be globally silenced unless they are actual zoophiles
People using words other people don’t like that aren’t necessarily used in a hateful way, some people don’t want to see that some don’t care.
Was on a gmod server before that had a total free speech rule where people would say horrendous shit to be edgy but one day they banned one slur for one group of people specifically which felt kinda weird
Hexbears. A lot of people call for you guys to get defederated, but have seen a few hexbears be genuinely nice and helpful. I’m sure you can see my point with that one
BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 8 months ago
So you think people should be able to use slurs. Big suprise there
Nakoichi@hexbear.net 8 months ago
Pedophilia and Nazi shit are not acceptable. How fucking hard is that to understand?
Quit JAQing off and answer my questions motherfucker.
Cummunism@hexbear.net 8 months ago
LIB
GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 8 months ago
Human welfare as decided by the humans in question. If we agree that we would overall benefit from Nazis being cast out, then that is all that is needed to cast them out.
silent_water@hexbear.net 8 months ago
it extremely doesn’t. communities have standards – they get to decide.
I’d extremely like to know what more controversial topics you have in mind blob-no-thoughts
flashgnash@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Furries, lot of people don’t like them but also don’t think they should be globally silenced unless they are actual zoophiles
People using words other people don’t like that aren’t necessarily used in a hateful way, some people don’t want to see that some don’t care.
Was on a gmod server before that had a total free speech rule where people would say horrendous shit to be edgy but one day they banned one slur for one group of people specifically which felt kinda weird
Hexbears. A lot of people call for you guys to get defederated, but have seen a few hexbears be genuinely nice and helpful. I’m sure you can see my point with that one
silent_water@hexbear.net 8 months ago
nah, slurs 100℅ deserve a ban. miss me with this shit. Im also shocked, shocked that you defend the use of slurs. I wonder why you’d use a website like that thonk
lmao it’s definitely impossible to make the case that a group of largely queer people deserve protection - I’ve definitely never made this case at length and vigorously on this website because it’s impossible to do without uhhh checks notes freeze-peach.
lmao, I and most other hexbears don’t give the smallest shit if liberals defed us because we’re rude. we carved out a place for ourselves and made a happy and comfortable home for 3 years without federation - we recruit offline, into orgs, not online. lemmy is a place for us to decompress and commiserate, not a means or an end.
GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 8 months ago
Put it to a vote. If they vote against us, then c’est la vie. My only stipulation is that we get a chance to present our case (as our opponents also would).