The only one telling tall tales is the one claiming the workers own the means of production in China when you have an investor class in China that gets profits from work they do not do.
You cannot own the means of production if someone else owns your employer. Chinese workers at large companies do not own the means of production. The shareholders own the means of production.
China gave up on socialism in all but name 25-30 years ago.
RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
The only one telling tall tales is the one claiming the workers own the means of production in China when you have an investor class in China that gets profits from work they do not do.
FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 1 month ago
None of what you have said has negated my statements, and Chinese billionaires do not own the state like American and Russian oligarchs do over the US
RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
It does if you understand what those words mean.
You cannot own the means of production if someone else owns your employer. Chinese workers at large companies do not own the means of production. The shareholders own the means of production.
China gave up on socialism in all but name 25-30 years ago.