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IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

In Mainland China, most people don’t know about Tiananmen, the older people who heard about it didn’t know much unless they were in Beijing, my parents (in Guangdong province at the time) just think its some kids “causing trouble”.

Most of the liberalizations goals failed, there is no free press. China is a State-Capitalist dictatorship.

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CitricBase@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Yes, I understand that. Perhaps I was not empathetic enough, I am sorry to hear that about your family being deceived, along with the rest of mainland China.

The fact that the oppressive CCP won does not mean they were right. The world is not a Disney movie, the good guys don’t always win.

“Vindicated” just means that the good guys were good. Whether or not they won.

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- IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Dictionary Definition:
  
  vindicate *verb* - 1 a: to free from allegation or blame - b (1): confirm, substantiate - (2): to provide justification or defense for : justify - c : to protect from attack or encroachment : defend - 2 : avenge - 3 : to maintain a right to - 4 obsolete : to set free : deliver
  
  www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vindicate
  
  So imagine a person defending against an assailant and inadvertently kills him.
  
  The polices comes and accuses the person for murder, but its self defence.
  
  So the man get convicted for murder.
  
  Sure, his family may believe him. Some friend may believe him. A rebel group might also believe him.
  
  But most people either don’t care or just believe what the police says.
  
  The man spends life in prison. And his identity, records, papers are all shredded.
  
  He may be in the right, but that’s not exactly being “vindicated”.
  
  Vindicated is:
  
  to free from allegation or blame
  
  Yea maybe in the west, but in Mainland China, it doesn’t exist. Those who witnessed it thinks it was a riot.
  
  Being “Vindicated” would be the CCP topples, and the new government shares the truth.
  
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wewbull@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Fact is, even in the west we don’t know much. The historical record has holes. We know of the protests. We know the military went in and nobody came out, but I’m not sure we really know what happened.

At least… I don’t.

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- IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  
  We know the military went in and nobody came out
  
  Well, maybe not “nobody”
  
  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Yellowbird
  
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