Sorry if I hurt your feelings, but that’s how people move to other countries. Getting refugee status is either for extremely privileged or extremely desperate. And moving out of your own volition from usa isn’t the second case.
Sorry if I hurt your feelings, but that’s how people move to other countries. Getting refugee status is either for extremely privileged or extremely desperate. And moving out of your own volition from usa isn’t the second case.
stickly@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Point is it’s not something a “normal person” can do. It’s an obscenely privileged thing to even suggest. Most countries require proof of enough wealth to support yourself and your family before you can even start the process. And it’s only going to get more strict as countries start locking their doors to climate refugees.
More realistically your exit involves an overflowing boat straight to a migrant camp, then “remigrated” back as the world plunges into a recession and the locals don’t want you. And that’s if you’re lucky.
nesc@lemmy.cafe 2 days ago
People in boats are absolute minority of people moving to other countries, and applying for visa is a normal way of moving countries.And climate and refugees has nothing to do with the post where a chinese person in usa asks how can they move to another country. And no most countries do not require proof of wealth for work visa, some even allow to work start working and apply for visa later e.g. Poland.
stickly@lemmy.world 2 days ago
They’re a minority because it’s an extremely dangerous and low success-rate way to enter. You’re comparing global affluent population shuffling to actual poverty migration. The vast majority of the globe doesn’t have the skills desired for a work visa, much less the ability to pay the costs of relocation. If people desperately needed to migrate quickly, that’s the only way they can.
Poland is a weird example to pick, they’re very publicly in the news right now for blocking a refugee initiative. They may have lax requirements for legal entry at this moment, but all signs point to a shift.
All migration is population pressure, I can assure you these governments don’t care if you’re from the USA fleeing fascism or a South-Asian country fleeing wet bulb events.
nesc@lemmy.cafe 2 days ago
Poland is an example that I know of, and again this thread is not about refugees. Feeling threatened and not safe is not enough to be considered one. You’ve just changed your stance completely in two posts while doubling down on irrelevant parts. And no moving from usa somewhere and moving from irrelevant country somewhere are completely different experiences with completely different attitudes to the people that are trying to move. That’s not even funny how different they are and how easy a person from usa would have it compared to any non-firstworld country.