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zenitsu@sh.itjust.works 1 year agoI don’t care that “many people don’t agree with that statement”. Who? Republicucks? Right wing grifters on YouTube?
The consensus is that the defeat of Russia is paramount to the West. Especially among those whose opinions are most qualified to opine on the matter.
Objection@lemmy.ml 1 year ago
Roughly 50% of all Americans. I’m not sure who determines “the consensus” if polls are devided and the side that disagrees just won an election.
zenitsu@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Right wing opinion has been highjacked by the Russians, it’s a compromised crowd.
Conflating the election result with support for Ukraine is also disingenuous, given that most americans actually support sending aid.
Objection@lemmy.ml 1 year ago
That’s the narrowest margin I’ve ever seen described as “a majority” lmao.
If Russia has the ability to brainwash half the country using a handful of bot farms, then I can only imagine what our own, much more powerful and well funded intelligence agencies are capable of.
This whole, “they disagree with me therefore they’ve been brainwashed by Russia” but is tiresome. Sure, Russia has made some attempts to influence public opinion but it’s not nearly as broad as you suggest. Even if it were, that raises the question of why they were so receptive to Russia’s techniques and why your side can’t employ similar ones to persuade them. Honestly, when people say stuff like this, I have to wonder if they really believe it themselves, or if they’re just saying it to discredit the other side or to resolve the psychological discomfort of other people disagreeing about something.
zenitsu@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
I think you just lack the information, here are just a few examples off the top of my head:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mueller_report
…wikipedia.org/…/Russian_interference_in_the_2016…
…wikipedia.org/…/2024_Tenet_Media_investigation
The West can’t engage in the same disgusting tactics even if it wanted to because unlike the authoritian state of Russia, we don’t control our internet to the point of blocking YouTube/Wikipedia. This can’t possibly be news to you.