Hmm, I’ll check these out, thanks!
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sxan@midwest.social 2 days agoMaybe. Not everyone is just going to ignore this, though.
I waffle between Firefox and other browsers, depending on how tolerant I’m feeling. Not using Firefox is more work. Sometimes I’ll spend a week or two with Firefox up, but normally, I’m in Luakit.But when I hit that web site that just doesn’t work with WebKit, I hop over to FF for it. Now, with this, I’ll probably start jumping to Nyxt which - while also WebKit - seems for some reason to work with more sites. Nyxt is faster, too; luakit is really slow and has a persistent scrolling bug that drives me nuts. But Nyxt hard-hangs multiple times during each hour of its, requiring a kill -9 and restart, so … Luakit.
Like I said. It’s harder to not use Firefox. But this change in policy is enough to make me change my habits and use something else when I have issues with Luakit. Or surf. Or vimb. Or whatever I’m fancying this month. Problem is, they’re mostly WebKit, and while in grateful for it, it struggles with many web sites - and especially the JS heavy ones.
AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
sxan@midwest.social 2 days ago
They’re all very niche. Keyboard driven. A fair number of issues; they’re all built on WebKit, with all of the compatability issues that comes with.
I mean, it doesn’t hurt. But it’s like picking up vim: there’s a learning curve. They’re not for everyone, just fair warning.
AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Oh haha so this won’t work for…well, work.
tomenzgg@midwest.social 1 day ago
I forget why I stopped using Luakit for Qutebrowser…
Maybe I should give it a go, again; or Nyxt. I’m probably more along as a programmer for its setup to be more intuitive.
sxan@midwest.social 14 hours ago
Luakit has a lot of problems. The biggest one right now is that it has some scrolling bug where it just… won’t. It’s extremely annoying, but it beats having to
kill -9Nyxt multiple times an hour because it hard-freezes.Why haven’t I tried Qute? Is it keyboard-control oriented?
tomenzgg@midwest.social 13 hours ago
Yeah…; heh, discovered some things this afternoon. Neither browser was able to load Google without crashing the tab (which, I dunno, could – maybe – motivate me to kick the habit?).
Luakit, on my distro, is v2.3.3 and I tried building to v2.4.0 but the built executive kept saying 2.3.3 for its version. I suspect this is probably more my fault, though.
I dunno! Heh, I feel like it’s relatively popular but I’ve also been snooping around the minimal browser space since Uzbl so maybe my perception’s off.
The biggest reason you may not have is it is based on Chromium. At the time I discovered it, the dev.'s reason was due to security issues in WebKit, at the time, but that was also 5–9 years ago so that may not be a concern, anymore.
It’s also built with QT; I generally use GTK so it’s my one gripe but I know it doesn’t bother everyone.
And it’s built on Python (I know that bothers some); but those are the only things I can think of.
It uses the same default layout that Uzbl inspired in vimprobable, dwb, jumanji, vimb, and Luakit so that’ll probably be familiar. Vim bindings out of the box (which I feel like Uzbl also inspired in all the aforementioned browsers).
I feel like it’s the most stable of the bunch, for the most part (which is probably why I keep going back to it). It can be resource heavy but the customizability and fairly stable performance is generally pretty good.
And it got support for uBlock Origin (I’m sure there’s a generic name but I’m afraid I don’t know it) style adblock lists recently with the help of Python’s
adblocklibrary (I hadn’t realized Luakit and Nyxt had support for that until now and it was always by major con, with Qutebrowser).Right now, there’s a Wayland display issue in suffering with but that’s QT’s fault and isn’t present on v6.8 (but my distro’s still at 6.7.2…); so that might not even be an issue, for you.
sxan@midwest.social 12 hours ago
Well, I don’t use Wayland, and Qt and Chromium are going to completely new to my system, but maybe I’ll give it a shot.
Cheers