Comment on James Cameron will reportedly open Avatar 3 with a title card saying no generative AI was used to make the movie

oce@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

• SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  ‘Would his opinion of the technology be different if the technology was different?’

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  • oce@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Indeed, is his opinion based on the way the current technology works by regurgitating, or is it based on the loss of creative jobs?

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• chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Only when we can accurately point to any one idea that a human has had that hasn’t been a product of previous information.

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  • oce@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    With historian work, I think it’s possible to say this idea appeared at about this point in time and space, even if it was the object was refined from many previous minds. For example, you can tell about when an engineering invention or an art style appeared. Of course you will always have a specialist debate about who was the actual pioneer (often influenced by patriotism), but I guess we can at least have a consensus of when it starts to actually impact the society.
    Also, maybe we can have an algorithm to determine if a generated result was part of the learning corpus or not.

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    • chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      But the idea is never original. The wheel likely wasn’t invented randomly, it started as a rock that rolled down a hill. Fire likely wasn’t started by a caveman with sticks, it was a natural fire that was copied. Expressionism wasn’t a new style of art, it was an evolution that was influenced by previous generations. Nothing is purely original. The genesis of everything is in the existence of something else. When we talk about originality, we mean that these things haven’t been put together this exact way before, and thus, it is new.

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      • oce@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        I don’t disagree with your definition, but I’m not sure what it changes in the point of current LLMs lacking human creativity. Do you think there isn’t anything more than a probabilistic regurgitation in human creativity so LLM already overcome human creativity, and it’s just a matter of consideration?

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