Comment on I liked Star Trek before it got woke. /s
MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 3 weeks agoAgain this is because Marx was concerned with reality. Science Fiction wasn’t even a genre to speak of in his lifetime. He might have considered non-violent tech driven communism had that been remotely conceivable at the time but during his time electrical power was rare.
Marx was a huge influence on Roddenberry’s views of The Federation.
mechoman444@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
just a quick gpt query. So no… He wasn’t.
While Star Trek reflects some Marxist themes—such as the abolition of poverty, class struggle, and money—there is no direct evidence that Karl Marx was a foundational inspiration for Gene Roddenberry. Roddenberry was more influenced by mid-20th-century liberal humanism, secular progressivism, and the optimism of the Space Age rather than Marxist theory.
The Federation’s post-scarcity economy resembles aspects of Marxist thought, but it arrives there not through revolution or class conflict but via technological advancement and social evolution. Moreover, Star Trek retains hierarchical structures (e.g., Starfleet’s chain of command), which contradict Marx’s vision of a classless, stateless society.
While Marxism and Star Trek share some overlapping ideals, Roddenberry’s future is more in line with utopian socialism, liberal progressivism, and even elements of American exceptionalism rather than strict Marxist doctrine.
LengAwaits@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
startrek.com/…/smith-marx-and-picard-star-trek-an…
mechoman444@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The article you have provided doesn’t support what you’re saying instead supportswhat I’ve been saying the whole time.
There are of course parallels to Marxism in Star Trek. Which is not something being argued right now. The contention is that the society of Star Trek on Earth is marxist which it isn’t then the contention turned to rottenberry taking inspiration from Karl Marx which he didn’t.
Which goes back to my original question why are you talking about stuff you know nothing about?
LengAwaits@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
You win!!! Congratulations!!! You’re a big boy with big opinions that are right!
For what it’s worth, I hadn’t said anything in this thread so far, so I’m not sure what you mean with your last sentence. Just pasted a link that I thought was interesting, related to the topic at hand. Then you got standoffish about it.
You keep looking for things to be mad about, though. Someday everyone will recognize you as the most smartestest and correctestest boy on earth.