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Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

Their platform was not, “I will close gitmo”. Maybe somewhere in the parties platform it was in there but that is not what they ran on and quit trying to rewrite history.

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jonne@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
theguardian.com/…/obama-guantanamo-bay-closure-re…

It was definitely something he ran on, and Obama even signed an executive order to do it.

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Exusia@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_13492

Google isn’t hard to use.

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- Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  I’m not going to sit here and argue semantics with bad actors trying to obfuscate the Americas plunge into fascism. I just want your all to know, you guys are disgusting.
  
  PM if you want to know how I really feel.
  
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  - Exusia@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    It’s not semantics it’s literally cause and effect. In the initial post YOU replied to, they simply stated that if preventative maintenance had been done we would not be having to ask “what reaction is appropriate” so soon. I know YOU’RE looking for answers to the OP, but then you replied to someone simply bemoaning that we could have been better.
    
    Obviously, at this stage no one is really sure what to do. Is the US really sliding into New Nazi Germany? To what degree? What is a proportionate response to any level? Should anyone actually do anything or will the government sort itself out? Remember, 49% of the voting base DID vote for him, as much as you or I disagree with them. To use violence against someone who is, at this stage, still a democratically elected leader, would be fair game to put anyone in prison. That’s the catch-22 of the issue - he’s still fairly elected, but as soon as the declaration of the formation of the first Galactic Empire, you’re already too late.
    
    If someone DID react, what do you do? Peacefully- Strike at work? Block road/railways? Stand in the doorway of trump-aligned businesses? Or escalate into violence- Burn buildings? Which ones? Even further - Does every city devolve into street warfare like Mogadishu in 1993?
    
    Cause and effect. What happens if you do the peaceful things? The violent ones? Will people follow your peaceful resistance and risk their jobs for your cause? Will people follow your violent warpath, and risk their lives for your cause? What happens to them if they do either, or do nothing and ignore you? These are the questions you ask not “well why is everyone bitching about black man sucks”. - not because powerful funny black man sucks, but because his inaction has us asking all the questions above so much sooner than anyone would have liked.
    
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