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211@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

Fingers crossed, that would make me very happy. Land loss hurts way less than decades of finlandization.

Would have to be a -very- quick process, every day of negotiations would be a massive danger to them, and based on how it went with Finland and Sweden I’m sceptical of that too. And of course US commitments to defend EU Nato members, based on political whims.

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T00l_shed@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
It’s not just “land loss” all those people, their homes and families and lives need to move, or be anexed into fascist russia? No trump would need to tell putin to go back to pre 2012 borders and fuck right off.

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- 211@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  You’re talking to a Finn whose grandparents on both sides lost their homes to stalinist USSR. A sapling of a plant they brought with them grows in my yard. I’ve visited the locations and met the new inhabitants (normal people). Trust me, I know land loss sucks. War also sucks, and much as I hate realpolitik… sometimes there’s realpolitik. Of course in the end it’s up to the Ukrainians how long and for what they are willing to fight, with access to whatever aid (hopefully more) they have.
  
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  - T00l_shed@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    The Finns didn’t have the backing of the international community who are largely not at war. I am truly sorry for what your grandparents went through, war is horrible. But if russia is appeased, they will re arm and do it again.
    
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