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Ilovemyirishtemper@lemmy.world 1 day agoI think it’s more about the ad hominem attack. I don’t love Elon Musk by any stretch of the imagination, but I don’t like him because of his ideas, beliefs, and the impact he’s having on my country. It has little to do with how he looks or the shape of his body. It’s his ideas and their implementation that people disagree with in actuality.
Attacking how he looks is just a lazy way of attacking someone without putting in the effort to refute the beliefs and ideas he has. Sensitivity isn’t what is bothering OP. It’s that we’re missing the point by focusing on blind dislike instead of attacking the reasons that generated the dislike.
droporain@lemmynsfw.com 1 day ago
Fuck this you don’t have to be offended by any of this. Why are you taking it personally? Grow up and mind your own business. Fuck heads reap what they sow, why project anything onto anyone except what it means and is intended to offend.
Ilovemyirishtemper@lemmy.world 1 day ago
You’re right; I don’t have to be offended or take it personally. As such, I am neither offended, nor am I taking any of the comments in this thread personally. This is mostly because I’m addressing the issue at hand, not the person involved, so there is nothing to be offended by or about.
My point is that, you’re attacking the person, not their ideas. I get that it’s irritating to have someone question or throw a wrench into a post that was just supposed to be a good-old offensive time. Like I said, I’m no Musk lover, and I enjoy hating on him too - above bar or otherwise. But, OP brings up a good point by saying we should focus on the issues at hand as opposed to attacking what the person looks like. Also, since this is a public thread on Lemmy, if a person is willing to comment, it is obviously assumed that said comment then becomes the business of everyone on Lemmy (and, quite honestly, the entirety of the internet). Otherwise, why post at all? Is discourse not the point of this entire platform?
I don’t think OP is a “fuck head” simply because they want to draw attention to the actual issues instead of being focused on circle-jerking about peoples’ unspecified hate for Musk. I don’t think they are offended by the post, just that we should be a bit better about the focus of our discontent. I get where you’re coming from though, it’s a shitpost community, and circle-jerk hate is very satisfying. As said, I, personally, do enjoy it, but I’m not the greatest human being, and I sometimes like to give in to that less reasonable part of myself. If that’s the kind of thing that you want to post about, that’s fine. Do it! Just don’t be surprised when other people call you out on your logical fallacy. Otherwise, if you think there is no fallacy at play, then you may not actually have any counter-arguments to the ideas and claims that Musk makes, and that is where OP’s concern lies.
You seem like an intelligent person, so I doubt your only reasons for disliking Musk are simply corporeal. I think you should continue to have fun with shitposts like this while OP should continue to draw attention to the fact that, while this feels good, it’s not the actual issue that we’re dealing with, nor does it provide a solution.
droporain@lemmynsfw.com 1 day ago
I really don’t care, you want to waste everyones time with feelings. This is why shit doesn’t get done. When your at war for survival, some stuff needs to take a back seat and prioritize goals. Then you can argue over when its mauve or pink and if it offends someone.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 day ago
So you’re saying that people can do things like call Elon the N-word (no, not Nazi, you chucklefucks) and it’s okay because he’s a bad person and it is intended to offend?
droporain@lemmynsfw.com 1 day ago
Who was it that said by “any means necessary”? “I had a dream”-- he was still alive today.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 day ago
So that’s a yes? It’s okay to use a racist word that describe black people when talking about Elon Musk? You really think that?
Also, if you’re trying to quote what is likely the only thing you know that was said by Dr. King, it’s “I have a dream.”