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Comment on 'The Brutalist' criticised for its use of AI

barsoap@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

Apparently, the line between art and garbage is how it’s made.

Yeah no that’s the difference between craft and craft. Confusion about that is ripe both within the pro- and anti-AI crowd, on the one hand you have people who get dazzled by the results of their “big boobiez plz” prompting, not able to judge the resulting image even if they tried to, on the other side you have people taking on “big boobiez plz” commissions not realising that their derivative style, by-the-numbers composition, everything, is slop. Hand-made slop is still slop.

You can value craft for its own sake and that’s fine and proper but please don’t confuse it with art or I shall be referencing urinals on pedestals.

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petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
Hand-made slop will always be worth more than whatever comes out of google’s big pachinko machine. Art is communication. AI can’t communicate.

or I shall be referencing urinals on pedestals.

Why, because it’s vulgar? Prefer your pristine statues of roman soldiers, do you?

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- barsoap@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  Because it is an ordinary object elevated to the dignity of a work of art by the mere choice of an artist. It’s what readymades are all about. Granted, there’s also craft involved, e.g. Duchamp is said to have browsed through quite a couple of bicycle wheels to find one that was appropriately banal for his intentions, but that, as far as we know, wasn’t the case with Fountain (said urinal on a pedestal). He just had a point to make about the nature of art and bought the next best urinal, put it on a pedestal, and signed it with a random pseudonym to not have people fawn over his signature.
  
  That was art. Since then, tons of self-professed conceptual artists have produced nothing of value, producing slop, repeating the same point ad nauseam, worse, thinking that the point was to be crass and vulgar. Banksy pointed that out quite brilliantly when he used the medium of art auctions to paint a picture of rich nitwits jerking off to being given the finger.
  
  Prefer your pristine statues of roman soldiers, do you?
  
  Check your bite reflexes. That’s not to say that the Romans didn’t know a thing or fifty about sculpture but I know exactly what you’re trying to imply.
  
  AI can’t communicate.
  
  And neither can a porcelain factory.
  
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  - petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    I’m a busy man with a busy schedule, so I had chatgpt summarize all that for me:
    
    The comment argues that the value of art lies in the artist’s choice to elevate an ordinary object, criticizing modern conceptual art for being vulgar and unoriginal, while also questioning the value placed on handcrafted items over machine-produced ones.
    
    Uh, my guy, people love handcrafted things. You ever seen E t s y?
    
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    barsoap@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    I’m a busy man with a busy schedule so I’m going to quote myself as you demonstrably can’t be bothered to read:
    
    You can value craft for its own sake and that’s fine and proper but please don’t confuse it with art or I shall be referencing urinals on pedestals.
    
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