Comment on Trump on Vaccine Mandates, Biden's COVID Failures, & Ignoring Fauci

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sj_zero@lotide.fbxl.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

"Careful spender" is a tough thing to say, because it's a soft measure. What is "careful spending"? It's sort of meaningless. I go by the actual numbers.

I'm measuring absolute and inflation adjusted (to 2007 dollars since that's when I did the math) increases in federal debt, and in terms of that, Reagan was horrible. Going into his presidency, the federal debt was about 900 billion dollars, and when he left office the federal debt was about 2.3 trillion, the largest % increase since the second world war, absolutely massive. The inflation adjusted numbers look worse. H. W. Bush was worse, but in inflation adjusted terms, Clinton (granted with a Republican congress iirc) was by far the best. He increased the annual federal budget in 8 years about as much as H. W. Bush increased it in 4, both are less than half of the inflation adjusted change in spending by Reagan over 8 years, he balanced the budget by the end of his term and increased the inflation adjusted debt by an amount comparable to Bush, and at a rate lower than any president since Carter. George W. Bush spent a huge amount which I think is one thing that crushed the Republican party at that time -- how do you run on fiscal responsibility when you increased the debt from about 4 billion to over 10 trillion?

Obama blew everyone else out of the water. 9 trillion dollars(not inflation adjusted), almost more than all other presidents combined, leaving office with about 19T in federal debt. When Trump left office, it was about 29T. Some of that was pandemic spending, but Trump's federal budgets were each the largest in history by a huge order of magnitude.

You could maybe argue that Clinton had it easy comparatively because he had a growing economy with shrinking debt, but you could also argue that Trump was running up record budget deficits and record budgets with unemployment at 4% up until the pandemic in his last year in office, which is one of the lowest numbers in history. By all accounts, he should have been showing record shrinking budgets and similarly shrinking debts.

Beyond that, I agree with you totally. I think the prevalence of glowie ops shows that they are solving problems they create. We didn't need these organizations previously, what changed? Only the desire to have a federal state that has overarching power over everything, the opposite of what the constitution calls for.

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