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• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨[Very minor Academy spoilers] Does anyone else think the marketing undersold Holly Hunter as Chancellor Ake?⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago⁩:

  I think that what makes the character fun is all of the combinations of different seemingly-incongruent elements and so I don’t think there’s a way to cut a trailer that shows all of the different parts in context.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Episode Discussion | Star Trek: Starfleet Academy | 1x01 "Kids These Days" & 1x02 "Beta Test"⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago⁩:

  Ep 2 thoughts …

  So, in present day history, we’ve got the US Space Force, newly created, with a logo that looks an awful lot like the Star Trek arrowhead. But Trek has gone back many times to remind people that Starfleet is not the military. There’s a lot to unpack here because actually exploring means that you are potentially wandering off into dangerous places, where you need either semblance of order and discipline (think civilian ships where the skipper tells you to do something) or the ability to defend yourself against someone who might not be friendly.

  Thus, Lura’s drill sergeant act fits this model. She doesn’t want to turn you into a killer so much as making sure that you can stare death in the face and not loose your shit.

  Likewise, if they write the whole plot with the War College and the Academy next door to each other right, there’s the potential to restate the original base idea behind Star Trek TOS but adjusted for the present day. There was a lot of back and forth about the rank braids on people’s sleeves because they wanted something that shows authority but isn’t too military. Kirk’s stripes were two solid stripes and a broken stripe, whereas the navy would have him wearing four solid stripes because emotionally Gene thought that was the right combination of Authority but not Military.

  The Vulcan xenomythology class was perfect, for me. You’ve got one of the many great Vulcan deadpan moments as well as keeping to the very Starfleet ideal of understanding.

  Given that they did not know what the heck to do with Troi’s powers as an empath and if they had Luxana Troi there the whole time, the episodes would have been boring a.f. as she’d mind-read powers out of everybody, I guess I respect the choice to play with betazeding. I’m interested in the potential for Tarima in the War College with everything just because I like the never-explored idea that Troi as Counselor was supposed to be Counsel and not Therapist.

  Tarima’s cinematography is almost cloying? Science fiction, coming from its roots as boy’s magazine fodder, is always a little bit about that eternal quest to find exotic, sometimes alien, women … and bang them. And the camera lingers, kinda obviously. We have had a bunch of scenes with Caleb shirtless in Ep 1 where the colored lights gave him some amazing muscle definition so it’s equal opportunity. It was far better than Alice Eve’s somewhat notorious underwear scene in Into Darkness.

  The Namibia instead of Paris for the Federation HQ was a nice throwaway line.

  The … international dialogue in front of the Academy was … something. I really like the 1988 play “A Walk in the Woods” by Lee Blessing and they way they showed the process was two diplomats going for a series of casual walks where they do not at all talk about the negotiations over the course of a year. You could have written almost the same story between Caleb and Tarima and migrated a decent percentage of the story beats over as-is but also I think you’d loose the audience. So having the speeches with an audience where leaders make their demands and then following up most of the time with something else got the idea across while keeping things moving. And I do think that Tarima’s primary goal was to be a member of the diplomatic staff where actually liking Caleb was more accidental. Who better to get the real story than the person who is the least Starfleet out of the entire cadet corps?

  Also, diplomacy was always one of the things that Starfleet did, not so much being a diplomat at an embassy but understanding how to avoid conflict and make a good first impression on the species you made first contact with.

  Caleb keeps chafing at the order of things and that’s good. I’m assuming that Nahla intentionally put Caleb and Darem in the same room. And so there’s his quest for his mother (however they are going to resolve that) and disrespect but at the same time he’s able to put himself second, albeit with effort. One bit I really like is the reference to his mother studying physics. An oft-ignored thread of Trek was the waste of people’s lives in the 20th century on account of them not having access to that which they need to grow on account of today’s capitalist system. And then also Nahla cutting him off with “It’s not about you”

  I knew that there was a Red Dwarf reference coming in Ep2 and it still caught me unawares.

  I am curious if they are going to reveal anything about Gideon S. Turner. I can’t entirely tell if Caleb is making stuff up and Tarima is playing along or if Gideon S. Turner has a very strange history. It would be cool if it was a brick joke.

  Caleb, Ocam, and Darem all in a room has some serious potential to show … 31st century bros, charmingly?

  It really got me towards the end, the idea that rebuilding does not mean rebuilding it exactly as it once was.

  So, yeah, it’s landing well for me. Nahla keeps serving as my surrogate in the story because … I watched TNG when it was new and I do think about the world we’re handing the kids of new generation. Uniting the galaxy in peace and understanding is what the Federation was supposed to be out and if they can keep the story moving well enough people won’t be yearning for a big battle scene that kills off a bunch of characters?

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Episode Discussion | Star Trek: Starfleet Academy | 1x01 "Kids These Days" & 1x02 "Beta Test"⁩ ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  Oh, didn’t see that it was a spoilerific thread. Edited for ease of reading.

  I went in cold, LOL. I’d not bothered with the trailers or the preview reviews. Yesterday, I saw a post on reddit that said that people were mad because it wasn’t white enough and impulsively decided that I’d watch it before bed … which then caused me to go to bed late because I had to rewatch the fun bits.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Episode Discussion | Star Trek: Starfleet Academy | 1x01 "Kids These Days" & 1x02 "Beta Test"⁩ ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:

  Just watched Ep 1. Spoilering everything.

  spoiler

  Star Trek (and science fiction) exists as a mirror of it’s time, different enough so that we can look at ourselves from a distance, with a required added component of playing with the ideas about what the future might be like. TOS and TNG were both mirrors of their time, with a Klingon on the bridge predicting the end of the cold war. I definitely feel the “ok, the present generation of kids is inheriting a shitshow” vibes to this show. If you understand that there were a bunch of past efforts to do the Burn in Star Trek, it seemed like something that floated around for a long time now to break the universe (the abortive Star Trek: Final Frontier animated series being one) and … I dono, I’m more OK with it now than I would have been in 2009 because, as I said, Trek is a mirror of it’s time. Comparing things to Star Wars, the sequel trilogy started out with the idea of “Guess what, fighting nazis again!” and it was prescient and it’s altogether too bad that they hadn’t actually thought things through well enough to bring it to a really smashing conclusion. There are a lot of threads (Caleb’s mom being a big one) where they could totally bungle things. So, we start with family separation. Wonder where that came from! And then we kinda bounce around the subject, too. Nahla having done a thing, regretted it, leaving Starfleet, trying to make it better while also showing that whatever they do end up doing, it’s not “solving” what they did in the first place. Nus Braka chews up the scenery. This is important, in a Trek series. Yes, it can be quiet and thoughtful and serious but we always come back to the spectacularly overplayed antagonist. I’m fairly OK with NuTrek trusting the audience less and driving a point home harder. A lot of people ascribe old Trek with values that it never had and part of that’s because the writers trusted the audience to see the point, but folks just don’t have the same attention span to do that anymore. Very very nerdy side note: on Outpost Pikaru there’s a whole set of grating panels that I assume are a deliberate callback to the freezer spacing grates that were all over the TNG-era Trek serieses as well as a bunch of other science fiction properties. They look very very similar but they aren’t. On the reddit side of the fence, someone suggested you look up Gina Yashere’s standup to realize just how Lura Thok is basically Gina playing herself but in the 31st century. She reminds me of one of the assistant principals at my high school, actually, except she’s got more drill sergeant edge to her. Jay-Den Kraag… when I was but a wee little trekkie, I knew a trans person who was deep into hardcore Klingon fandom and I think part of why it made sense for him was that Klingons was part of how he settled into his new gender? So the idea of Klingon males as a mirror to masculinity … toxic and otherwise … has been a thing, at least for me, for a while. I feel like Jay-Den Kraag was someone looking at the Klingon Therapist meme and making an actual character out of it. The entire scene where the Klingon is de-escalating things between two cocky assholes is something at least I needed. SAM’s first few scenes I skipped past the first watching and then when her character made sense, I had to go back and actually watch them because they were a lot less cringe. Genesis is an interesting version of charming because at first glance she starts out as a “mean girl” but then you realize that she’s parodying it hard. Okay, and the Doctor back as the anchor to the very past. Robert Picardo is keeping the Picard name alive in that he kinda aged to a certain age and he hasn’t really aged much since, much in the same way as Patrick Stewart does. There’s lots of fanservice, but in a good way. The half-white/half-black species from TOS, a green Orion, the Doctor, etc. One thing that’s interesting with the characters who don’t stay locked up in the dorms when the big action is happening is that they all have plausible reasons to be there. Caleb has been living a life on the run for a long time now. Jay-Dem is a Klingon and shows some moments of self-doubt. Genesis has been living on starbases her whole life, shades of Beckett Mariner actually. Darem is cocky and it gets him in trouble. And then SAM, doesn’t know better, but also doesn’t know fear in the way a biological would. Meanwhile, one of the other cadets is screaming senselessly. And I guess back to Nahla … she goes from “just following orders” to “Bajor schoolteacher on ice cream day” to supportive nurturing captain to playing high stakes poker with a space pirate and back. And she’s small, except for the part where she’s able to exude authority when being towered over. They were asking her to sell a lot and I think she did it. I looked through her IMDB and my past experience of her was the mom from Thirteen and Elastigirl. One thing I hope, as a long standing Ex Astris Scientia reader, is that there’s … some sort of sense to the programmable matter, the wild 31st century designs, et al. TNG had a lot of particle-of-the-week stuff but Voyager was a crazy-quilt of nonsense particles. It’s important for the viewer to, albeit not from the first episode or two, gain some vibes for where the boundaries are, otherwise there’s no stakes. A transporter ruins basically any “locked room” detective novel puzzle. Likewise, how they wrap up Caleb and his mom is going to either make or break the emotional arc of the series?

  So, overall … it landed with me, based on where I am in my life. I empathized with Nahla in a bunch of ways that make me angry about the world I empathized with Jay-Den in a bunch of ways that made me content about the world. I’m not sure how the younger generation or casual Trek fans are going to react to it.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨[deleted]⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩:

  I feel like Starfleet in Trek accidentally but directly led to the modern US Space Force.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨[deleted]⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩:

  Trek always had to soft-sell some of the socialist ideals (e.g. “we don’t need cash” without really explaining how things really do work) and then also a lot of science fiction that was popular in the more literary side of things during the 80s was actually frighteningly right-wing.

  There’s not really a good version of conservatism that works in this modern era, especially when you come to where the parties are staked in the US, but even in general. You can’t have a modern society with all of the complexities and interrelations and cost and then have it be entirely hands-off conservative capitalism. This is why even when you talk to people who are nominally part of the right wing and actually go through the checkboxes of things that they must necessarily adhere to, you see a lot of people who are so-called RINO people … and then a bunch of weirdos who nobody likes.

  The brain’s got a bunch of structures probably to prevent us from spiraling into depression when we were hunting the African savanna when our buddy got eaten by a tiger and there wasn’t anything we could have maybe done about that that cause today’s cognitive dissonance.

  So basically the only way you can get a frighteningly actually unpopular platform through the electorate is by taking advantage of cognitive dissonance. Because you have to project this idea that a fundamentally backwards idea is going to move us forwards somehow.

  If Copyright hadn’t been extended for so many centuries, Trek characters would already be in the public domain and we’d see them fictionally used much in the way that we use all of the characters from actual public domain works. Shakespearean heroes, for example. But, even as things are now, the characters of Trek have had such a presence in the media scene that they do kinda take that aspect on. Thus, basically repeating the plot of part of the Babylon 5 episode “The Deconstruction of Falling Stars” where you have the crew of Babylon 5 being used by a new fascist empire being holographically simulated to say 1984-esque things… one of the weapons to maintain a state of cognitive dissonance is to go back and kinda put fascist words into leftist mouths.

  So it’s a bit of an accident on the part of the person, who is being dragged along politically, but it’s very much part of the conservative movement to “reclaim” old media and the relatively milquetoast treatment of alternatives to capitalism and a complete abandonment of queer issues in middle-era Trek makes that kinda easy, which I guess is why NuTrek does go through some pains to state things a bit more forcefully.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨is it possible to be married and still feel lonely?⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩:

  So, there’s a lot of things to unpack here.

  First, the idea that your spouse is your primary sole emotional connection is a relatively weird new concept on the scale of things. There’s been a huge period of history where your primary emotional connection was your male companions and your spouse was infantalized by comparison. If you were well-off you might be so lucky and have your group of emotional companions, your group of romantic companions, and the person who bears your legitimate children.

  Second, there’s really not much of a good underlying working model for actual modern conservatism. The frontiersman/“house on the prairie” sort of rugged independence was never actually a thing back then and a lot of big issues like medical bills were a lot simpler when the answer to having any sort of illness was that you either get over it after relatively inexpensive and simple treatments or you die. So the conservative movement must necessarily sell you a false bill of goods. US politics are such that there is no actual fully-left political party, so that by default makes you a democrat.

  There’s also a bunch of added uniquely christian baggage. So there are left-wing christians who also have their own set of weird baggage.

  Third, mostly irrespective of politics, there’s a lot of cultural programming for males that they can’t actually worthwhile work though their emotions in a productive fashion. Movies, TV shows, books, literally everything in the media creates this idea of maleness and the writers are just trying to write a catchy story and seldom have time to think about what kind of male they are creating. This is, overall, a relatively recent concept.

  Fourth, “things men need emotionally that women cannot provide” is actually pretty silly. Outside of practical advice about what to do with specific pieces of anatomy where maybe it would be nice to have some reference, the things people do is a pretty wide field. “Oh, someone to watch football with” ignores female football fans, et al. This ties in a lot with right wing men because they can’t necessarily have an emotional connection with someone not-male because that’s equivalent to messing around with someone’s property. And it also ties in with the social programming that created a stereotype for how men are supposed to relate to each other that’s just a writer trying to put a good story together without thinking of the social implications.

  Radicalization doesn’t work on people who are emotionally connected and comfortable. Part of why we are where we are is that there’s a whole class of people whose happiness has been precluded by the structure of their lives and the best people who can take advantage of this are fraudsters selling a false bill of goods. And I don’t even really feel sympathy for those people anymore because they are hurting people who I do very much care about and after a point it doesn’t matter if they are just too dumb to see it.

  But, I guess, to return to your initial point, the idea that if you find a person and get married to them that you have “solved” connection, that’s the road to unhappiness. Partially because marriage generally requires a commitment and effort to stay together as things happen and people change… but also because relying on one single person without other social connectivity is not a stable equilibrium.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Paul Giamatti Boards ‘Star Trek: Starfleet Academy’⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩:

  I hope that, at some point in the series, they reference his prized bottle of Chateau Picard that he’s been saving for a special occasion.